News: E3 Leaflet Fake?
By Ash - Apr 14th 2004 22:21We have exclusive scans of an E3 booklet for Nintendo!!!
First off all credit goes to J-GCNBoy who sent us this scan. Thanks to him we can show everyone this leaflet from Nintendo advertising E3 2004.
Nintendo looks like they are planning a big E3 this year, and this leaflet shows it. In the leaflet there is information about their products at the show this year. The scans can be found below but first for the highlights.
Screenshot Highlights:
- The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 2
- Too Human
- Burnout 3
- Rogue Squadron IV: New Rebellion
- Game Zero
- Fire Emblem
Games Included:
- Resident Evil 4
- The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 2
- Star Fox 2
- Paper Mario 2
- Metroid Prime 2
- Too Human
- Pikmin 2
- Baten Kaitos
- The Movies
- Donkey Konga
- The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords AD
- Hope
- Virtual Fighter Cyber Generation
- Geist
- Fire Emblem
- Tales of Symphonia
- Killer7
- Burnout 3
- Second Sight
- Star Wars Rogue Squadron IV: New Rebellion
- Game Zero
- Starcraft Ghost
- Timesplitters 3
- Def Jam Vendetta II
It appears that Nintendo is going to announce quite a few new title for the Nintendo GameCube at the E3 this year! Fire Emblem and Star Wars Rogue Squadron IV: New Rebellion, for example. Also we will be seeing some of titles we haven't heard about for a long time. Game Zero and Too Human, for example. And what is this Hope game...?
Update: Leaflet is fake!
We have given the leaflet a closer look and it appears that it has some 'flaws'. We must apologize for building up hopes and possibly causing a lot of speculation. We will be the first to admit that we rushed into this piece because we believed it to be (even if it is fake it’s still pretty big) and we should of checked into it more thoroughly. We have reason to believe that this leaflet is fake.
Tomorrow we will contact Nintendo to confirm this news. We have also tried to contact our source but he is not replying to the message. Until then we should consider this leaflet fake! Our apologies about the issue and we hope you do not look too harshly upon Cube-Europe, as we were trying to report news.
INCREDIBLE!!!
--Galvanizer
--weed for life
btw, Is those REAL screenshots of "The Wind Waker II" and "Metroid Prime II"?
--Galvanizer
--The black stuff
--Zeikfried
--The black stuff
--Ash
So much for Lucasarts pulling the plug on the cube when all they did was had no games revealed
People jump to conclusions to easily
Lookin forward to a fair few of those games
--Serebii
--Serebii
E3 is going to rule. Go rogue squadron
--The black stuff
FINALLY AN OFFICIAL LIST
--Shadow_Link
Also that contains the first image fo the next Zelda...that's sorta big when thinking about how hyped those use to be...
And that Metroid 2 image looks amazing! :D
--Off-Oddy
--Dennis
--Charlie Brown
don't tell u didn't know the four swords game is going to be called four swords adventures
--Shadow_Link
--spanky
--Surronded
--Fuzzy_NWG
--Off-Oddy
--Rasmus
--L0rdPain
Someone saw no cube games on their release schedule and paniced
--Serebii
--The black stuff
--VIcIous
And do my eyes decieve me....Too Human???!!!
--:::Shenlong:::
Someone saw no cube games on their release schedule and paniced"
I Told you. I cant wait!!!! I love Rogue squadron even if part 3 should have had better 1 player. New Rebellion ?
GAME Zero. Futuristic . ABout time :D
Burnout 3: I told you guys!
Metroid Prime 2 : AMazing! I am postive this is going to be amazing.
Zelda TWW2!!!!
--Lokked
NOOOooooooooooooooo
--Lokked
--MaxPower
--soul2soul
Too Human on GameCube. Pffft. If it gets released on a Nintendo console it'll be on N5. Or at least it is commonly thought so. Also the screenshot is propably taken from some old CGI pictures.
Another point. Why does Star Fox 2 screenshot look still so old. The graphics of that game were almost laughed at at the previous E3. I think that Namco and Nintendo must have improved the game's graphics.
Four Swords AD? It's Four Swords Adventure. And doesn't it get released in the USA before the E3? I know Nintendo shows some already released games on it's show but with a name change?!?
Rogue Squadron IV? Lucasarts: "We currently don't have any GameCube games in development"
Game Zero looks Killer7-ish. Is it just coincidence or is the screenshot actually from Killer7?
Burnout 3? I just read somewhere that this game will not appear on the Cube.
Wind Waker 2? The screenshot doesn't look too complex. Could be fake.
Hope look like it's a PSone Final Fantasy.
And why doesn't the pamphlet include any information from newly announced Legend of Golfer. I'll tell you why: Because the forger didn't know anything about the game when it created this "pamphlet".
And why doesn't that pamphlet have a front page or back-page? Usually that kind of pamphlet would have a front page with headlines and all.
Yeah, It'd be one heck of a line-up if it was true but it isn't. Please, prove me wrong.
--Zelme
No idea about hope, maybe a new game altogether. Second sight was announced a couple of weeks ago, from Free Radical, the former Rare team. Geist is a title n-space are doing with N, was actually shown at last years E3. Not seen that much since.
Anyone notice how the MP2 pic is quite different to the new pics posted? Fakes I would guess.
Looks a nice brochure, is it legit? Nice to see something of Game Zero at last! No Mario 128 though :(
--olddie
--soul2soul
--boris
--ricardok
--Serebii
--gremlin
--gscbw
--gscbw
--Zelme
--Lokked
--NeoBlizz
--brandon82
No Animal Crossing 2? :'( I've been looking forward to that game so much. :/
That game "Hope" looks interesting, must be some of the new titles Nintendo have up their sleeves. :)
--Sagara Sanosuke
--gscbw
--Lokked
--gscbw
--TimCE
--gscbw
The finger looks irrelevant. I think it is there to "convince" leaflets genuineness.
Sorry Cube-Europe guys, but when have you actually had exclusive news like this? Usually it is IGN or some else site revealing this kind of news.
As someone already pointed out, The Wind Waker 2 won't likely to be called 'Wind Waker 2'. In a E3 pamphlet, the game's name should be correct.
And propably the most important proof of them all. The folds between the pages are grey. Why would they be grey in a purple pamphlet? Folds actually have the same colour as the background has.
Now I just know that this leaflet is SO fake.
--Zelme
You know, these people have to sign non-disclosure contracts when they work for the major games consoles or have them as clients saying they're not allowed to show anything off. Still not saying what my opinion on the validity of the brochure is, but wouldn't Mr. Thumb in the pictures above get his future career prospects cut EXTREMELY short because of such stunts? Just mentioning it to the press is enough to get you fired..
--SovanJedi
And anyway, I remember last year everyone thought the E3 pamphlet was a hoax, when in fact every game on the list was there. It does seem to be a yearly marketing thing.
Silicon Knights are not pulling out of Gamecube development like Rare did. It's no surprise to see Too Human on the 'cube then.
--Fryguy64
--brandon82
I don't blame you guys, but I do think that you must think before act. Yeah, it would be nice to be the first to announce news like this. But you must do a little research on your own before you publish suspicious news like this.
Here's a lesson for you, guys.. No hard feelings :)
--Zelme
No, it's fake, several people on other forums have already determined some of the shots are from different games entirely.
It's a nice fake, but it's fake.
--brandon82
--Repus
Remember the Jan. before the GameCube was launched? The GameCube web conference by David Gosen? Which European GameCube website got that around a week earlier than they should have? Cube-Europe....
--pdhq64
I mean, those screenshots mostly look like images that are not available on the web, so it'd be near impossible to make up nearly all of them. Like Fire Emblem for instance.
So here's the deal. If I'm right, ya'all are gonna be like 'Glace, u da man!!' Else you can say whatever..like... 'Glace u suck man'. Aight? Aight, deal. Hehe, I can just feel that all you people who are reading this are thinking 'what a moron'. So, don't back out now, I better hear some praising if I'm right :P
--Glacius
--pdhq64
I wasn't following Cube news back then so I don't know about that. So Cube-Europe can have real big news before the others. Good, but the site has reported many rumours as true, also. I don't mind, really. It's just that it'd be nice to do a little underground job to see whether a piece of news is true or not before publishing it as true.
Well, these fake scans are quite funny actually. They offer an opportunity to play detective :D
--Zelme
--Glacius
http://media.cube.ign.com/media/00 1/001982/imgs_1.html
--Zelme
--shebby
Keeping this up is just for getting attention and hits like Spong and CVG do.
--Lokked
You can always use search option on the IGN site to look for Fire Emblem screens. I guarantee, they are there.
--Zelme
--CiberMike
Why is is fake??? it looks damn real to me! you believe IGN?? Well i DON'T...
Of course nintendo will not confirm this to be real.. why would they?
IGN are also the ones saying factor 5 are stopping gc games development.. or am i reading wrong?
I'm %90 confident that it's REAL :)
--smowza
--smowza
--Zeikfried
The leaflet might be fake, but who's to say all the screens are? Never heard of "Hope" though, so you're probably right.
--Android18a
Oh well a new Zelda is still good. Metroid looks Great. To be fair though even if this leaflet IS fake the screens cant be, otherwise their every VERY cleverly done.
--Deku-Nutz
Number one: It has a bar code. Almost always, things that have bar codes cost money. That is the bar code's main purpose. (That and for ID purposes BECAUSE it costs money). Why would a tiny pamphlet like this cost money or need to be rung up at a register? I've gotten an 80 page Winter catalogue at a store showcasing new games from Nintendo and it was free and had no bar code.
Number two: Nowhere are the names "Nintendo" or "Gamecube" printed in big letters without being covered up by anything. They will almost always do this to because they want their company name known as the company responsible for these fantastic "games".
--Deathstryker1984
Like we posted in the article we didnt do it for the attention. We did it for the news as real reporters would do. Mistakes can be made. Trust me, we dont want to be like Spong ;)
--TimCE
1.
Look at the recent release of Metroid Prime 2 screen shots...now look at the screen shots on the leaflet...mmm.
Ok if you haven't spotted it yet, the leaflet is using the Visor display from Metroid Prime and not the Visor display from Metrois Prime 2.
2.
Mario 128, because no one knows anyhing about this game in any way. This isn't featured on the leaflet, because creating a mock would potentially ruin nintendo with critisim, and that's enough to put people off straight away, even if not true. Plus it's very hard to make a mock up of a game that no one knows about the graphical style or even the genre!
3.
Wouldn't a leaflet have a little bit more than screenshots! Like maybe times of presentations of the new software, a floor map, and i doubt nintendo would make people collect 2-4 different leaflets for gamecube, DS, GBA. And even if they were to, this leaflet doesn't cover the CONFIRMED new peripherl for the gamecube.
4.
Even if they were to make an individual leaflet for exclusive nintendo software (like the star wars game - RS IV) wouldn't THE LEGEND OF GOLFER be on it. Oh that's right, the leaflet was made before any details of Golfer was released, poor, pathetic people who are behind it.
7.
None of the games on the leaflet give details of which company's behind it, plus the leaflet shows 3rd party software, if that's all the games for the gamecube at E3 i'd be shocked. There are about a million 3rd party games out there, and this includes mediocre ones that no one will buy - Virua Fighter Cyber Generation?
6.
Give me one reason that makes it genuine....i can't think of one
--Freakcrap
"even if this leaflet IS fake the screens cant be, otherwise their every VERY cleverly done."
A little program called Photoshop. You don't think that all those Ads on TV/billboards/magazines etc. are real do you...awww, you did? So you thought that you could actually buy jumping phones that are alive from the carphone warehouse, and you thought that the goblin in the sprite ads was real?
It's an exciting day for you. The world must seem like a whole new planet now that you know.
--Freakcrap
So all those hours of skething, character design, modeling, artwork and rendering is just the fool's way of doing it.
Yes, Photoshop can do wonderous things, but it cannot decrease the workload by 50 times.
--Drivelberry
Anyone else notice that it says that N-Space is developing the game "Hope"?
--Drivelberry
Photoshop is 2D, games are 3D, so no. I work with 3D and 2D Animation. We still draw but use Photoshop to create stills, this allows image manipulation for the purpose of creating imaginary scenarios, most common use is for posters for example, or screenshots if you wanted to. But it is very easy to create stills like those shown on the "leaflet".
Games Designers will likely scan in 2D drawings into 3D software and use them as a template/reference for creating the 3D models. So drawing is still fundamental for 3 dimensional media.
So in short, game designers still draw, and this can be done on programs like photoshop.
--Freakcrap
--mrshadow_03
--Link_Rules
How to make a fake...
http://www.vandal.net/foro/cgi-bin/foro .cgi?accion=leermensaje&mensaje;=125444&foro;=4
--psikoWOLF
This lot seems quite obviously fake though, but I'm not fully convinced.
--Podings
E3 will rocks.
--Jongred_forever
--Icarus
Too human goes to gamecube??????
--nuno
--edgar
A barcode is only a method representing a number. I work for a company that sells EPOS (electronic point of sale) systems. Yes barcodes can be used for costing in shops etc. but as they are simply a number at the end of the day they can be used to for company ID badges, Stock numbering, Document Management Systems, Tape backup systems. So you are incorrect as to what your belief of a barcode represents.
--bazzatuk
http://www.vandal.net/foro/cgi-bin/foro.c gi?accion=leermensaje&mensaje;=125444&foro;=4
Y oull have to translate from Spanish using Google or sumthing
--donkeykong 007
--Noilfish