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10.07 / July 2004
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Review: iTalk

by Lee Bennett, lbennett@atpm.com
excellent

Developer: Griffin Technology

Price: $40

Requirements: 3rd-generation iPod with dock connector. (iPod Minis currently have no recording capabilities.)

Trial: None

After dissing Griffin Technology’s SightLight last month, a few colleagues of mine got the mistaken impression that I don’t like any of the company’s products. Nothing could be further from the truth. I own a PowerMate and love it. I’ve also tried out the iFire and iMic, and would certainly purchase them if I really were in the market for them.

The iTalk is yet another addition to the list of awesome Griffin products.

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The Ideal iTalk Customer

As a worker in the field of communication, on occasion I need to take information from someone to use in a story. I’m not exactly a journalist, but I pretend to be one once in a while. My ability to scribble notes quickly is sorely lacking. Sometimes, I remember to carry my department’s micro-cassette recorder with me, but usually not. Instead, I now keep an iTalk in the center console of my car—and, of course, my iPod is rarely very far away!

To be clear, the iTalk is not something people should run out and purchase an iPod for. Rather, the iTalk is an extremely useful device for specific categories of people who already own a third-generation iPod. Those people mainly include journalists who are frequently taking interviews, students who like to record lectures, bosses whose secretaries are tech-savvy enough to work with the WAV files for dictation, and any geek who likes to record voice reminders. (For what it’s worth, dedicated digital voice recorders that hold more than just a couple minutes of audio don’t cost much, if any, less than the iTalk.)

Using the iTalk

The iTalk couldn’t be simpler to use. Just attach it to the top of your iPod and you are immediately presented with the screen to begin a recording.

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Access the recording screen either by attaching the iTalk or via the Extras>Voice Memos>Record Now menu.

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A large-print timer is displayed during recording, along with menu options to pause or to stop and save your memo.

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Each recording appears chronologically in the Extras>Voice Memos menu. Selecting a recording offers the choice to play it or delete it.

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Memo playback is functionally identical to song playback.

Wish List

Admittedly, I wavered several times between rating the iTalk as Excellent or Very Nice. If ATPM rating scale were numerical, 5 being Excellent, I’d have given the iTalk a 4.8. Thus, Excellent is the closest rating. There are three ever-so-minor points for improvement.

First, while Griffin conveniently added a headphone pass-through jack on the top of the iTalk, which doubles as an auto-switching mono microphone input, the iPod remote jack is not duplicated. If your conditions permit you to just leave the iTalk attached at all times, you won’t be able to use Apple’s iPod remote control. (The iTalk also covers the hold switch with no way to access it without removing the iTalk.)

The second gripe may just be inherent with how the iPod operates. When you click the option to begin recording, about two seconds elapse before recording actually begins. This is not readily apparent to the user at the time recording is started. Apparently, this is the time needed for the hard drive to spin up. Since there is really no confirmation between when you initiate recording and when you actually are recording, my advice is to always wait until you see the counter display one second elapsed before speaking.

Third, Griffin’s product page states that the “built-in speaker is amazingly loud for its size.” This is true—I once let 3-4 friends listen to a new song using the speaker and everyone had no problem hearing once I turned the volume up to somewhere around 90-95 percent. However, quality and volume are two entirely different things—a differentiation Griffin’s iTalk product page doesn’t seem to make. Sure, the speaker is great for listening to a reminder you previously recorded or for other brief playback needs. Its quality is exactly what I’d expect for something so small. Perhaps even a bit better. But I really wouldn’t enjoy listening to an entire lecture or a playlist of songs from it.

Audio Quality

Conversely, the recording quality is quite stunning when heard through headphones or decent computer speakers. The files it produces are 8-kilohertz, 16-bit, mono WAV files. These specs are dictated by Apple, not Griffin—indeed, its actually the iPod that performs the recording, not the iTalk. It only manages the recordings. This level of sound quality creates audio files that are roughly a megabyte per minute, give or take. So even if you have less than a GB free on your iPod, you probably have room for several hours of recording. It’s a safe bet you’ll run out of battery before you run out of space.

To test the quality of the recording specs, I held the iPod/iTalk at a typical distance that I would hold it for navigating the menus—around 8 inches from my mouth—and recorded a few seconds of talking. When I played back the file through my computer’s attached speakers, even though there was a slight hiss that is to be expected from an 8-kilohertz recording, the clarity was perfect. Even at a point when I raised my voice a bit, there was no distortion. Thus, for interviews, the iTalk passes with flying colors.

normal.wav: A typical iTalk WAV file, recorded from 6-8 inches.

close.wav: Resist the temptation to use the iTalk an inch or two away from your mouth, like a phone. Note, be sure your computer speakers are not set too high when playing this file. The distortion is in the recording—not your system.

To simulate a classroom/lecture setting, I took my iPod and iTalk into my weekly office staff meeting, which is held in a room that seats around 100. There were probably about 35 people in the room at the time. I sat about 3/4 the way to the back—maybe 20-25 feet from the person talking up front—and recorded for a few minutes. During the recording, two different people spoke. One was rather quiet and the other had one of those voices that really carry. In spite of obvious ambient noise in the recording, the second person’s voice came through loud and clear. The first person was noticeably quieter in the recording, but raising my laptop’s volume setting all the way (my external Yamaha powered speakers generally always remain set at about half power) enabled me to hear every word.

far.wav: An iTalk recording from about 15-20 feet.

So, if you’re in a good-sized lecture hall and sitting more than 4-5 rows from the speaker, you may need to either move closer, or ask permission to set your iPod on the lecturer’s table.

Conceivable Feature

If there was only one thing I really wished were a feature of the iTalk, it would be for it to accept a stereo line-level input and record 44-kilohertz stereo WAVs or AIFFs. As I previously mentioned, the 8-kilohertz spec is dictated by Apple, so Griffin has no way to incorporate a better quality setting, even at the expense of using more space on the iPod. I occasionally record seminars (with the presenter’s permission) sponsored by my office and make audio tapes available for sale. Many have inquired if we’re going to start doing CDs instead of tapes. I’m liable to purchase an iMic soon and digitally record the seminars directly to my computer. But, recording CD-quality through an iTalk to an iPod, connected to the room’s sound system, would be far more convenient if this were possible. The recordings would sync into iTunes, from where I could easily start burning CDs.

Interaction With iTunes

Speaking of moving the recordings to and from your computer, there is a small caveat to keep in mind. Recordings initially are accessed in the Extras>Voice Memos menu. When you sync your iPod, they show up in iTunes as a playlist named Voice Memos. The “gotcha” is that, after synchronization, all prior recordings no longer show up under the Extras menu. They now appear in your iPod, as you have probably guessed, as a regular playlist named Voice Memos.

The Verdict

Don’t expect the iTalk to make worthwhile recordings at concerts or large outdoor events. But, if close-proximity recordings could easily become a part of your normal routine, the iTalk is small enough, cheap enough, and convenient enough to possibly be the best digital voice recorder you can buy.



Reader Comments (24)


Patrick S July 25, 2004 - 17:57 EST #
Thank you for this outstanding review. I am so impressed with the snapshots and soundclips. This is easily among the best reviews I have ever read. Congratulations

Matthew Skaj August 03, 2004 - 11:36 EST #
Thank You so much! I have been waiting for a review on the iTalk from Macworld, or MacAddict, or anyone for that fact. I wanted to buy one to start creating an audio journal and to record some personal interviews for a book I'm writing. This interview really helped in making that decision. I wasn't sure about file size, how the file was stored, or if the quality would be good enough. I really appreciated your audio samples. They made the diffrence in my decision. I completely agree with Patrick S. This is one of the best reviews I have ever seen for any product. WELL DONE!

briana j December 02, 2004 - 15:14 EST #
i read about the iTalk on Griffin's site and left interested, but with questions. you review was extensive and answered all my queries. thanks

Brian S February 23, 2005 - 21:55 EST #
This is the most informative review I have ever read, I am a student and am looking for a way to record lectures, but didn't know if the iTalk would be appropriate, your review has helped me make my decision. Thank You

iago March 03, 2005 - 14:27 EST #
i love this, but i'm living in brazil, and this is verry costly. i will not never find this cheap in brazil! :(

ben April 03, 2005 - 00:45 EST #
as the reviewer mentions on his wish list that they added a headphone pass-through jack on the top of the iTalk, i made a careless mistake of leaving the headphone on italk when i meant to record a lecture.
obviously, this action blocked the sound from being recorded.
i admit this was a stupid thing to do, but if anyone knows if i can somehow recover the voice memo it would be very helpful to prepare for my upcoming exam.
thank you!!

Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) April 03, 2005 - 05:11 EST #
Ben - I don't understand. My wish list item was not for the headphone pass-through jack—that's already there. What I wished for was for a pass-through of the neighboring wired iPod remote jack.

Having clarified that, I'm afraid I have to say you may be completely out of luck. Here's what happened. the iTalk actually does support external microphones that plug into the mini headphone jack. A side effect of this is that the iTalk cannot tell the difference if you have headphones or a mic plugged in. It can only detect that something is plugged in.

You may or may not be aware, headphones and microphones are sort of the same thing. The only real difference is that a microphone is designed to have sound vibrate a diaphragm and convert the vibration to an electronic signal. A headphone/speaker is designed to take an electronic signal and use it to vibrate a diaphragm to produce sound. They're the same, just in reverse.

If you plug your earbuds into the iTalk and record, and if you put the earbuds very close to your mouth, you'll actually hear the recording when you play it back—sort of! It'll sound like crap because the headphones weren't designed to be used as a microphone.

Technically, you did record the lecture. It may not be impossible to take the WAV file into a professional audio processor, significantly increase the gain and perform noise reduction algorithms, and pick up at least some of what the lecturer said. But that's wishful thinking. As soon as I moved the earbuds more than a few inches a way from my mouth during my test, I couldn't detect that it picked up anything, and it recorded silence.

Sorry. In the future, make sure nothing is attached to the top when recording, or that a true mini-jack microphone is attached.

WILL G April 29, 2005 - 13:16 EST #
thank you for this review it has helped me be assured of the kind of product i will buy! thanks to the review i will go buy the italk after work today

Mike Rowland May 21, 2005 - 12:39 EST #
Lee,
Thanks for the excellent review. One type of recording that you don't mention is something like a person playing a guitar and singing into the italk. I realize that the 8khz spec is going to limit the frequency range, but do you have an idea as to quality?

Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) May 21, 2005 - 19:26 EST #
Mike - since I'm neither a singer nor a guitar player, I wouldn't take my advice as gospel truth, but I don't think I'd recommend recording any sort of music with the iTalk. It may be fine if your only purpose was to bring a quickie recording back to someone just to let them know what you heard, but I'm quite confident that I wouldn't want to have a recording made with an iTalk as a song that was part of my regular iTunes library.

Your mileage may vary.

Cynthia Javernick June 30, 2005 - 02:29 EST #
I'm considering purchasing this to use during my voice lessons. I'm guessing the distance from the farthest point of sound (my voice teacher) would be about 7 feet. I would be closer. Not needing this to be world class recording quality, but enough so I don't forget the exercises I'm supposed to be doing and a little bit of singing variances. Obviously, I probably wouldn't want to put it on top of the piano. :) What do you think?

Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) June 30, 2005 - 10:16 EST #
Cynthia - I think it would be fine at 7 feet, so long as the speaker isn't half whispering—something I'm sure would not be happening for voice lessons! In fact, because the volume level of the speaker/singer is likely to be louder than typical conversation, you may actually want to set the iTalk a little further away to avoid overdriving the levels.

pibel nani July 06, 2005 - 20:26 EST #
I just tried it with an external microphone and I think it could be good enough after cleaning in some audio editor to be used to grab samples for later musical production. it might work.
I'll give it a better test later on.

Thanks for you useful review.

ps: is it really impossible to change the frequency range? does it depend on the hardware?

Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) July 06, 2005 - 20:38 EST #
Pibel - I'm not going to say this with extreme authoritativeness, but according to my research, yes, the frequency is entirely up to the hardware, and that is entirely up to Apple's specifications.

Please, someone prove me wrong.

Jean L August 13, 2005 - 22:34 EST #
If only all reviews were as thorough as yours life would be much easier. KUDOS for the awesome job!

Karen Huie August 14, 2005 - 16:47 EST #
Thanks so much for your care and generosity in sharing your information. I'm interested in recording accents and languages I hear in the normal course of my day for study. I would imagine I'd be within 5 feet. Is this a directional mike or a stereo mike?

Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) August 14, 2005 - 18:43 EST #
Karen - it's an omnidirectional mono microphone. Remember, as stated in the review, the recording format is restricted to 8-kilohertz, 16-bit, mono WAV files.

Cami August 18, 2005 - 07:53 EST #
Thanks for this amazing review, very helpfull.

Ian Spratley September 02, 2005 - 08:47 EST #
Hi

thanks for a helpful review. I'm a singer/guitar player and I have some comments to share. I've just purchased the iTalk (with a 20G colour iPod). I want to use the iTalk for recording song ideas to share with my band - so it's an audio 'sketch pad'. I've had mixed success using it for this purpose.

Session 1. iPod in Dock placed on desk about 2 feet way. I'm sitting facing it, guitar on my lap. Quiet song; in this situation the iTalk picks up too much guitar.

Session 2. as above but iPod sat on tall box to bring iTalk higher (nearer mouth level, but same distance away). Much better balance between vocal and guitar.

Session 3. Connect Rode NT3 Studio mic (via mini-jack connector) and placed mic on mic stand.

All three sessions were played back through studio amplifier/monitors. The quality of recording using a studio mic was better - but then I'd expect it to be. But what surprised me was that the balance of vocal and guitar was about the same in sessions 2 and 3. So the iTalk mic would certainly be good enough to share ideas with the band.

But ..... and here I have a problem; Playback using iTalk. I cannot hear a thing - well only when I put it to my ear. I've recorded at various distances including close (inches away) and I've got the volume up to 100% - but the sound output is the same each time.

There is no way I can record using iTalk and then let others hear it without connecting it to an external amp/speaker system. Nothing plugged in the speaker jack either. I'm new to iPods so I may be missing something - any advice welcome.

Lee Bennett (ATPM Staff) September 02, 2005 - 12:51 EST #
Thanks for your comments, Ian. I wish I had an answer for your playback problem. Mine plays back recorded audio and songs perfectly fine. Maybe the speaker in your product is defective, and you'd need to contact Griffin for a replacement.

Is there a microphone or something attached to the top of the iTalk? Having something in there may cause the speaker to shut off.

Ian Spratley September 02, 2005 - 13:11 EST #
Hi Lee

thanks for the quick response. There is nothing attached to the top of the iTalk. I've emailed Griffin - sounds like something is causing the speaker to shut off.

I've not yet sync'd it up with my Mac so cannot yet try playing back songs from iTunes (don't have USB2 on my G4 iMac and am waiting on delivery of a firewire cable).

Thanks for your help - and best wishes to all affected by Katrina.

anonymous October 02, 2005 - 03:03 EST #
cool! nice review :)

anonymous October 11, 2005 - 14:57 EST #
I have same or similar problem as Ian. Talking into italk at recommended distance and normal tone of voice sounds like your sample recording at a distance...very faint. If I put about three inches from my lips I can get better sound, but still need to turn up volume 100% to be able to hear out of the italk speaker. I was hoping to use this to record small meetings 5 or so people and to record individuals (one at a time) verbal responses to test questions. I also have a problem with a loud high-pitched hum on the recording. Playback through PowerBook G4 is OK if I turn volume up 3/4 of the way.

peter Fraterdeus November 04, 2005 - 22:32 EST #
Aha! I've arrived here by Googling
"iTalk problems with volume in recording"
I find I'm having exactly the problem anonymous Oct 11 records.
Wonder if it's a Quality COntrol problem at Griffin!?
I've written to Griffin tech support. Will write back here to let you know what I find.

thanks for the good info!
PF

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