Hands-On: Datel 4GB Hard Drive for Sony PSP - Details, Benchmarks, Compatibility Tests & Image Gallery
 Mon Oct 17 2005 19:34:31 Hong Kong Time - Sony PSP
If you are a proud owner of a Sony PSP system, storage space (or what's on your Memory Stick) and battery power become the two main factors to consider before you head out into the wild. Our friends at Datel have developed an exciting solution for both of your problems. What was still an unconfirmed rumour last week is reality today: Lik Sang received the first sample of Datel's 4GB Hard Drive for the PSP, and in old Lik Sang fashion we couldn't resist to open it up, play around and take a VERY close look.
4GB Hard Drive for Sony PSP - US$ 199 Confirmed Price
With the very first sample of Datel's 4GB Hard Drive for Sony PSP, we received the final and confirmed price, as well as availability and shipping information. Lik Sang expects to have the product in stock by Monday, and the final and confirmed price of the unit is US$ 199. All customers who pre-ordered for the unconfirmed price of US$ 249.90 will of course get the new price applied automatically (we'll send you an email within 48h).
There is currently a huge rush on the unit and stock will definitely be limited over the next couple of weeks. Secure your unit by placing a pre-order today, compared to available Memory Sticks and expansion batteries it's a steal.
4GB Hard Drive
for Sony PSP
US$ 199.90
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4GB Hard Drive, X2 Battery Pack, Max Media Manager
The 4GB Hard Drive for PSP consists of four parts: the Hard Drive, a X2 Battery Pack, Max Media Manager Software for Windows, and a High-Speed USB 2.0 cable to connect your PSP to your Computer.
 
The 4GB Hard Drive is connected with the PSP by means of what Datel calls a flexible Memory Stick™ adapter that is plugged into the Memory Stick™ slot on the PSP. Once connected, the body of the HD attaches to the back of the PSP using two location posts which slot into corresponding holes on the back of the PSP. When used in conjunction with the X2 double capacity battery the 4GB HD forms an ergonomic extension to the PSP which follows the neat lines of the handheld.
The PC software is completely optional and advanced users already setup with Memory Stick, video converting software and game saves manager may keep their old setup. If you are completely new to "media management" for your PSP, Datel's software will be good quickstart: it allows you to manage your save files, download more of them from Codejunkies, convert movies, transfer files back and forth and more. The software comes in form of an 8cm CD-ROM. When we installed it, we were asked if we would like to automatically download an update from Codejunkies.com.
You'll also find an installation guide in the box and Datel provides support virtually everywhere in the world through codejunkies.com and their European and American hotlines.
Free Space 3803 MB - Size and Performance
Once in place and the PSP switched on, the hard drive is recognized by the firmware with 3803 MB free space. Because the 4GB Hard Drive is based on Microdrive technology (see here for an illustration), it is tiny and small and therefore doesn't make any noise when it is spinning.
If you are worried about the total weight of your PSP with 4GB Hard Drive and X2 Battery Pack, we've got good news. The hard drive's weight is is about 35 grams, and the X2 only additional 80 grams. The total weight of both units connected to your PSP is not more than about 125 gram. A PSP with standard battery and a UMD in the drive weights about 320 grams in comparison.
Transferring Movies to the PSP
In this test we have transferred a movie file with about 150 MB from the PC to the PSP's Memory Stick slot.
• Transferring to Memory Stick using Media Manager: 44 Seconds.
• Transferring to 4GB Hard Drive using Media Manager: 90 Seconds.
• Transferring to Memory Stick using Windows: 35 Seconds.
• Transferring to 4GB Hard Drive using Windows: 75 Seconds.
Loading Times
Here is an overview of how loading files from the three different solutions compares. Please note that in this test we measured the time from pressing start in the PSP menu, until the file was fully loaded and could be played back. The times will of course vary depending on the file size.
• Loading from Memory Stick: 1 Second.
• Loading from 4GB Hard Drive: 8 Seconds.
• Loading from UMD: 27 Seconds.
Battery Life on Movie Playback
To answer the question if a Microdrive consumes more power than a normal Memory Stick, we have put a couple of PSP's into test and waited until they shut down before running out of power.
• Playing movie with Standard Battery and SanDisk 1G Memory Stick: 4.45 Hours.
• Playing movie with Standard Battery and Datel 4GB Hard Drive: 3.35 Hours.
• Playing movie with Datel X2 Battery and Datel 4GB Hard Drive: 5.45 Hours.
Technical Note: If you are experiencing a video-lag or out-of-sync problem, please update your PSP's Firmware. This problem doesn't occur with PSP Firmware 2.00 or above.
Replacing the Internal Hard Drive
After having done all the standard tests, it was now the time to get a screw driver and see if our theories about hard drive up- and downgrades will prove to be true. After last weeks announcement of the 4GB Hard Drive, all the tech freaks here at Lik Sang couldn't resist to conjecture about all the different possibilities should the 4GB Hard Drive turn out to be a normal Memory Stick to Microdrive (aka Compact Flash, aka ATA/IDE) adapter on the inside. Imagine if Compact Flash cards work with it, imagine if you can plug in a 6GB or 8GB Microdrive, imagine if you can trick around and actually run a 120GB hard drive on your PSP?
Now all these theories can only be proven to be true if the PSP's Firmware actually supports file systems with maximum volume sizes of over 4GB. A quick search at Microsoft.com revealed that the standard FAT (FAT16) format that the PSP uses has a maximum volume size of 4GB, only FAT32 (maximum 32GB) and NTFS (maximum 256 terabytes) would allow larger hard drives. While the PSP itself only formats FAT, a quick test revealed that the PSP doesn't have any problem with FAT32 formatted Memory Sticks created with a PC. This having said, our hope for larger hard drive support in the PSP was back and the wait to get our hands on the opened hardware was getting more and more thrilling.
Opening the 4GB Hard Drive for PSP
After removing exact 4 tiny screws, we found exactly what we were hoping for. A small 4 GB Microdrive from GS Magic (click for the datasheet).
 
Compact Flash Positive
Now what happens to our PSP if we remove Datel's pre-installed 4GB Microdrive, and replace it with a couple of different sized Compact Flash card from 8 MB to 256 MB, 512MB and to 1.0 GB? As expected and as hoped for, the PSP didn't have any problems with it and allowed us to use our Compact Flash cards (less expensive than Memory Sticks and Microdrives) for our movies, photos and other files for the PSP. Please note that we pre-formatted all these CF cards with a PC. As we later found out, if you format them with the Datel "Hard Drive Adapter" through the PSP's firmware, it will not correctly format and always report as 3803 MB (and the CF cards will be corrupt). Again, formatting (or reformatting to get them fixed) with the PC will do the trick and all Compact Flash cards work flawless on the PSP.
 
6GB Microdrive Negative
Alright, what about other Microdrives? Larger Microdrives to be exact? Powering the unit up with our good old IBM 1.0 GB Microdrive attached to it worked like a charm, and one of us had to head out and hunt down the biggest Microdrive to be found in Hong Kong.
Unfortunately, this test was less successful than the Compact Flash test, and we want to spare you the exact words of our fellow Lik Sang tech support guys when they found out. To put it in decent words: while you can use the complete capacity of our newly purchased Hitachi 6.0 GB Microdrive when you are using the PSP in USB mode via your PC, the PSPs Firmware just doesn't want to recognize the drive. Bummer.
On the other hand, 3803 MB of free space was great news last week, and is still great news this week! Count each of us in to soon own one of these masterpieces (Editor: I stole the test sample for myself already). Congratulations go to Datel for providing us with a rock-solid (and innovative) product for the PSP. That's the Datel we all used to know "in the old days".
Image Gallery
The entire technical aspects aside, our creative department loves taking pictures. Here are some close-ups from all different angles of the hardware. Click on the thumbnails for a larger view.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Maniack - Mon Oct 17 2005 23:11:31 Hong Kong Time
I don't think it plays that well... Rakan (AKA: The Professional) - Tue Oct 18 2005 00:18:48 Hong Kong Time
This is great!!! Very impressive creation by Datel. I wouldn't mind getting one, a 4GB HDD is alot of good news and alot of memory!!! COOL THING!! Freeman - Tue Oct 18 2005 02:06:36 Hong Kong Time
I have been using MicroDrive in the digital photography for years now, and we have know that the MagicStor 2.2GB have tons of problem. So, we choose to use 4GB MD from Hitachi instead. If possible, I would like to see how this 4GB MD from MagicStor fare against the 4GB MD from Hitachi. Thanks msy - Tue Oct 18 2005 06:06:14 Hong Kong Time
did you try to make a 4.0gb partition along with a 2gb partition? Alex - Tue Oct 18 2005 06:36:59 Hong Kong Time
It's alot of space for sure but the bulk of the added components kills the sleek sexy look of the PSP. Now when you are walking around, people will be wondering what is sticking out the back of your otherwise beautiful piece of equipment. A movie formatted to PSP is never going to rise above a gig if properly encoded, so there really is no reason for 4gigs of space, that is, unless you are putting PSP game ISO's on there, and you wouldn't do that would you? bobby - Tue Oct 18 2005 06:39:16 Hong Kong Time
ok thats very ugly, having two things stick out the back of your psp Brian3D - Tue Oct 18 2005 08:32:50 Hong Kong Time
I find the 4 gig hdd and the battery pack alittle to bulky for the PSP. billybob - Tue Oct 18 2005 10:06:02 Hong Kong Time
Hell no! This defeats the purpose of the PSP being portable now! I can't fit it into my Playgear Pocket with that POS attached to it. LOL! blasster - Tue Oct 18 2005 12:37:12 Hong Kong Time
This is still a waste of money. It is way over priced. They should just sell the cable and let players attach their own storage device. BakaWorkshop - Tue Oct 18 2005 12:55:27 Hong Kong Time
{did you try to make a 4.0gb partition along with a 2gb partition?} -- If the psp refuses to even see the drive, how will partitoning it help any? Anyways, cool product! dude - Tue Oct 18 2005 13:04:36 Hong Kong Time
wow must try this ;)
Psy-Q - Tue Oct 18 2005 13:13:28 Hong Kong Time
The 32 GB limit of FAT32 discussed in the article is wrong. Microsoft's OWN TOOLS simply can't format a FAT32 partition that's larger than 32 GB -- they conveniently forget mentioning that in the article. Microsoft did this on purpose to get people to switch to NTFS. Format your partition with other tools or operating systems and you will have no trouble going to e.g. 120 GB. ian - Tue Oct 18 2005 13:22:00 Hong Kong Time
The maximum size of a FAT32 volume is actually 2TB. The 32gb limit is artificially imposed by the Win2k/WinXP format utility. The largest FAT32 volume size that Windows will recognize is 128gb. But, 3rd party utilities (e.g. linux mkfat) can create and recognize large FAT32 volumes. sam - Tue Oct 18 2005 14:12:16 Hong Kong Time
I want to see someone integrate this into a playgear pocket. That would be good. royce barber - Tue Oct 18 2005 14:36:39 Hong Kong Time
why does everyone ignore the 8gb compact flash cards? are they too expensive or something? even if the psp doesnt like big drives, the compact flash 8gb wasnt shown but the silly 1gb was shown. and why is the gadget in this article so freekin huge in size. the psp idea is to be SMALL. freakshow - Tue Oct 18 2005 15:05:38 Hong Kong Time
ok, i was lookin around and found a cf to laptop hd converter card...if we could power up that hd is it possible that we use a laptop hd (with a lil hacking) ??? seems almost too easy to be true though Bo - Tue Oct 18 2005 15:49:52 Hong Kong Time
This is absolutely what I have been looking for so I guess I have to look into shipping costs for Europe.
What type of memorystick did you do the test with? just Duo or Duo Pro?
Alex: You obviously don't use your's while traveling. I have a problem fitting the 2 movies some music and the occational audiobook on a Gig so I would have no problem filling 4 Gb.
Adding backups of my UMD's to get better performance and not having to bring them with me is just a bonus. :)
fffb - Tue Oct 18 2005 16:27:18 Hong Kong Time
too bulky symmetry - Tue Oct 18 2005 16:42:32 Hong Kong Time
While I won't be buying this (too bulky) I just can't wait to see version 2. The Dude Abides - Tue Oct 18 2005 17:01:33 Hong Kong Time
The PSP was portable! ROTFLMAO!! Haha, this thing doesnt make it any less portable because it wasnt portable to begin with. Great product. Datel. Old-school. Awesome stuff! travanti jones - Tue Oct 18 2005 20:06:51 Hong Kong Time
i here alot complaining about size, i like it that extra bulk in the back would make the psp more comfortable to hold
Pikoro - Tue Oct 18 2005 20:10:00 Hong Kong Time
I know that I personally will be taking a cutting tool to mine making easy access to the slot where the microdrive goes. Hot swappable CF cards by pulling them out of the slot I am going to make there is what I want. sander - Tue Oct 18 2005 20:52:33 Hong Kong Time
Look at the size of the datel memory... This is not a solution for me still you can only put 2 umd movies on this 4 gb microdrive... Sandisk is developing MS up too 10 gb and sony and sandisk even mentioned a whole new series of MS with storage up to 35 gb... For now it's proven the longer you wait with purchasing the better hardware you will get for the psp... i recommend to wait till the end of this year and buy a 10gb memorystick blix - Tue Oct 18 2005 20:54:30 Hong Kong Time
I hope Datel or someone else will come out with some sort of psp case for these bulky add-ons. Other than that i'll just stick with my 2gb stick. marQ - Tue Oct 18 2005 21:27:03 Hong Kong Time
I have seen this in action and it is freakin' great! marQ - Tue Oct 18 2005 21:30:48 Hong Kong Time
@sander: A 35 GB Memory Stick from Sony will cost US$7164 !! ($199 * 35) and it will come out in 2009. This Datel is awesome, can't say it often enough. Of course if you bought a 2GB Memory Stick just yesterday, you are f#@cked! Alister - Tue Oct 18 2005 23:46:18 Hong Kong Time
Why the hell are you multiplying 199 by 35?
A 1gb memory stick costs 90 dollars (CAN), and we all know that Sandisk and Sony are making shitloads of money off of the memory sticks, but I still highly doubt that they will put out a 3,150 dollar (CAN) memory stick, they would at least lower the price, and if they released that, all the other prices of smaller memory sticks would be lowered monkey - Tue Oct 18 2005 23:52:32 Hong Kong Time
I'll buy one as soon as it comes in white :-D keggo - Wed Oct 19 2005 00:36:43 Hong Kong Time
I like this alot! I think this is really awesome. I know it's kind of bulky, but... who cares... I'm sure a more refined version will come out. That or the guys at Sony will see that an internal hard drive is essential. Anyway, I'll probably be buying one. I'd rather deal with a little more bulk for a smaller price than no bulk and having to amputate all my limbs to afford a 2gb duo... marq-pwned - Wed Oct 19 2005 01:22:17 Hong Kong Time
marq you do realize that the psp can only address 4GB currently. Obviously you haven't read the article the memory stick is still faster than the microdrive. AS well it doesn't require an x2 battery to power it, nor does it stick out and make the psp a brick. Kudos to you being another ********. X2 battery only adds another 1 hr battery running time. EdH - Wed Oct 19 2005 01:52:27 Hong Kong Time
What would really rock is a retractable cord so you can stick the HD somewhere in a pocket. G - Wed Oct 19 2005 03:32:16 Hong Kong Time
OVERPRICED??? I just got the 2 gig stick for the same exact price at bestbuy, send me one asap lik sang I want one of these - Wed Oct 19 2005 04:27:10 Hong Kong Time
In the top left picture in the image gallery, what's the 4th item.. I can see the HD, the battery and the USB cord and something else.....? joek - Wed Oct 19 2005 06:25:06 Hong Kong Time
"I'd rather deal with a little more bulk for a smaller price than no bulk and having to amputate all my limbs to afford a 2gb duo..."
This device is more expensive than a 2gb duo. You can get a 2gb duo for US$150. daver - Wed Oct 19 2005 10:33:53 Hong Kong Time
I think this is great, and the little bit it holds back on portability, i dont care a bit, its great! I'm going to buy 2, with my new check, so I can store different things on each one Tails - Wed Oct 19 2005 10:49:11 Hong Kong Time
"In the top left picture in the image gallery, what's the 4th item.. I can see the HD, the battery and the USB cord and something else.....?"
The other thing is the battery cover. ssstafhat - Wed Oct 19 2005 11:32:18 Hong Kong Time
joek - it looks like the higher capacity battery.. and then the thing with X2 on it is the battery cover.
You can see the shape of the other thing matches the existing battery. Rammone - Wed Oct 19 2005 11:40:27 Hong Kong Time
Good concept, Bad design. I still support the fact that this defeats portability.
Thats the whole oncept of a handheld device..."Portability"... This wasn't considered when implementing this product ted - Wed Oct 19 2005 12:31:52 Hong Kong Time
I can't wait to get one of these. Certain files that won't fit on one or two 1GB sticks will fit on this along with several other files and movies. Only downside is that it's a lot slower [than memory stick] and the bulkiness might make it less comfortable to play games lying down on ther couch. amps - Wed Oct 19 2005 14:25:08 Hong Kong Time
they should've just made it a CF2 adapter and knocked quite a bit of the price off. would've been cool if you could pop your own memory onto it and start using it. I own a 1 gig stick already. I wonder how much battery life you get with the CF flash card. I never heard of this brand of hard drive too. GM - Wed Oct 19 2005 15:48:32 Hong Kong Time
i think just for once it would be nice for manafacturers just to think that further ahead and incorporate stuff like this in the original console, 32mb sony duo i mean really it has about as much use as plastic oven bratak - Wed Oct 19 2005 18:22:17 Hong Kong Time
Yes! Sony shafted us all big time with that poxy 32mb card. This is a great idea! Well done Datel. Portable Smortable - Wed Oct 19 2005 18:26:36 Hong Kong Time
Well done Datel even though you are catering for the more ruggid users who don't mind carrying and extra few grams around! as for the whingers not portable anymore don't make me laugh! a 14" T.V. is classed as portable but did you ever try to carry a 12volt lead acid battery around! next thing you'll be crying about having sore arms and r.s.i. from the bulky beast. HAHA get a life. 2.22GB Pro high speed cfmd £47 free p&p; just cut a hole in the arse of this addon and save some cash.
Portable Smortable - Wed Oct 19 2005 18:29:00 Hong Kong Time
@GM
Some microwave ovens are made of plastic ;) Yoshihiro - Wed Oct 19 2005 18:53:31 Hong Kong Time
This protuct is oulgly it a piece of poo poo way to giant for the pucket of my sise I go to code a 10 giga
HD detrect. boggir - Wed Oct 19 2005 19:25:27 Hong Kong Time
the reason they ship with a 32mb card is that you need somewhere to store the gamesave files, if you want to add music and movies then you get a larger stick, simple. Zcold - Wed Oct 19 2005 21:21:49 Hong Kong Time
GM: Its sony, they dont want you throwing movies and mp3's on your psp. They incorperated those options out of nessesity..No one would buy it if it only played games..Well almost no one. But this is very sweeet. itunes - Wed Oct 19 2005 23:54:36 Hong Kong Time
Man That's just off the hook. i dont care if its bulky it just gives me lots of memory and batterry life. what ever u do just get it. spongeb0b - Thu Oct 20 2005 00:22:00 Hong Kong Time
memory price drop ..
1 and 2 gigs memstick will be less expensive soon and they more small and faster speed transfert want my psp for the card i already have a laptop .. not for me... jazuk - Thu Oct 20 2005 00:31:44 Hong Kong Time
People keep on about Portability.. this doubles the battery life, and stops you having to take all your games with you! (boot them off the disk!) So in effect, in makes it more portable. You'll just have to buy a different case.
For me it just looks badly designed, smoothing the edges off a little more would probably help. Jaanus - Thu Oct 20 2005 01:08:57 Hong Kong Time
WOW!!! this is the best thing to happen to the sony lynx... err psp. Extra bulk is what portability is all about. nexoman - Thu Oct 20 2005 03:02:08 Hong Kong Time
i met some people working on an ipod-psp hack for some time now.. dont know about the progress but what they did is first hack the 2nd or 3rd generation white ipod, put linux on it, and a seperate program that selects partitions on the ipod. I dont know how far the progress is now, its been about 2 months now, but its basically a cable that links ipod and psp. he mentioned that the ipods must be of an old generation because the newer ones cant be used to boot linux (i didnt know what he meant and im still not sure).. but if this cable sells for much cheaper than this gadget, i cant wait till his cable starts to be produced. ShadeX - Thu Oct 20 2005 04:01:15 Hong Kong Time
Nice!! Been waiting for this one for a long time. Eventually Sony will come out with a firmware to properly see FAT32 formatted drives. I'm still getting one. Nice! lol - Thu Oct 20 2005 04:45:31 Hong Kong Time
why dont they have the thing hang on the back of the umd door and get replace the battery with a charging attachment?
that might solve some of the "bulky" issues and you could take them of for "portability. Just a thought... Cap Future - Thu Oct 20 2005 05:06:24 Hong Kong Time
Now the PSP looks like a gamegear...
Perhaps they will bring a MiniCD drive to plug it in the middle of the two boxes... JAGGER - Thu Oct 20 2005 06:23:56 Hong Kong Time
The size is someone crazy but I guess it wouldn't be bad to have. Used in conjunction with psp video 9 with high compression and turning a full 2 hour movie to around 200 to 300 mb. I could probably fill up a 4 GB addition with ripped DVD movies real quick and have it on the go. Beyond the ability to store movies it may not be useful. However I will say, waiting for a 10 GB sandisk might be a little crazy since right now the price of just a 1 GB or 2 GB is pretty close to the price of this item and more expensive in some places. btkilla - Thu Oct 20 2005 07:32:16 Hong Kong Time
how much slower than the sony duo pro is it actually? it looks cool but if there are really 10gig cards coming out they will probly msrp at around 399 - 450(US$) foley - Thu Oct 20 2005 10:55:44 Hong Kong Time
how much slower than the sony duo pro is it actually?
8 times slower Cynicle - Thu Oct 20 2005 11:35:07 Hong Kong Time
its sad that sony didn't implement a micro drive like this in the first place. Maybe for v2 they could think about making a version that could go inside your psp and have sony certified people install it (so warrenty is stay valid)
BTW about this 34 gig memory cards and all, whats the point if the psp cant detect it? And is it possible to change the psp's default fat file sytem using homebrew and good ol 1.5? jarod - Thu Oct 20 2005 12:07:27 Hong Kong Time
HI joek
where did u get the 2g ms card for $150? eastbayarb - Thu Oct 20 2005 15:21:57 Hong Kong Time
Here is a quote concerning the 6gb microdrive test:
"To put it in decent words: while you can use the complete capacity of our newly purchased Hitachi 6.0 GB Microdrive when you are using the PSP in USB mode via your PC, the PSPs Firmware just doesn't want to recognize the drive. Bummer."
Now this seems to suggest that the PSP can read all 6gb of the microdrive, but in USB mode, the PSP can't. A work around to this would be to plug the microdrive itself (or even the microdrive+ms duo adaptor) into a card reader and transfer files that way...that would be great. itunes2 - Thu Oct 20 2005 15:46:28 Hong Kong Time
1gb and 2gb soon will drop prices but 4gb will stay up for quite a long time KK - Thu Oct 20 2005 16:04:19 Hong Kong Time
I think this is a really cool product, ugly though it maybe. I dont think it'll be long before knockoffs and parrallel devloped products start appearing. Datel probably were aiming to be first on the market and in time for Christmas. Prettiness is probably coming in future generations.
Also, you dont have to always have the dive on...you can go back to regular duo sticks for short journeys.
KK - Thu Oct 20 2005 16:04:37 Hong Kong Time
I think this is a really cool product, ugly though it maybe. I dont think it'll be long before knockoffs and parrallel devloped products start appearing. Datel probably were aiming to be first on the market and in time for Christmas. Prettiness is probably coming in future generations.
Also, you dont have to always have the dive on...you can go back to regular duo sticks for short journeys.
kk - Thu Oct 20 2005 16:06:41 Hong Kong Time
Sony probably included a 32mb stick to keep the cost of the value pack down. That also the attitude that it was meant for game saves, you want more stuff on your stick pay us more money Shinebi - Thu Oct 20 2005 18:45:01 Hong Kong Time
I really hope for a DS version to show up in some time too... BubbaJon - Thu Oct 20 2005 20:35:46 Hong Kong Time
The thing some of these bozos aren't thinking of is that retail on a 4 gb microdrive is over $150 USD. So boil that down to a battery pack and CF adapter for less than 50 bucks. Hell yeah! Gambit - Thu Oct 20 2005 21:32:28 Hong Kong Time
Oh my... That's HUGE :| Jester - Thu Oct 20 2005 21:56:19 Hong Kong Time
I have a a USB caddy controller and 80gb laptop harddrive. Only cost £120 total and having the drive on a usb cable means its well out the way, plus it has its own power supply. Only thing is it only runs via the usb connection so you still have to transfer data on and off the drive to the memory stick lucio - Thu Oct 20 2005 23:29:40 Hong Kong Time
the only reason sony sells the PSP with a 32Mb MS duo is that the real cash is made by implementing new formats: UMD to beat Warner's mini dvd, Blueray on the PS3 etc... Molondro - Fri Oct 21 2005 00:38:35 Hong Kong Time
I can't think of any reason why they didn't use flash memory instead. I recently bought a 1 gb chinese MP3 player for less than 70 € (don't know in $, but I figure around 90$). Also, Ipod Nano 4gb is selling for 299$ (if I'm not mistaken) but that price includes as well a pretty colour display, and lots of "appleish" fancy design. I think that with flash chips the battery usage would be lower and we would see the true X2 battery life.
just a thought. JT - Fri Oct 21 2005 05:03:59 Hong Kong Time
I assume that they tried formatting the 6GB micro drive with fat32 because they got the 4GB drive working.. but I dont see any mention of that in the 6GB tidbit.. could this have been a oversight? HEAYEAH - Fri Oct 21 2005 11:45:09 Hong Kong Time
This is a good idea! Ted - Fri Oct 21 2005 12:11:59 Hong Kong Time
I think the speed benchmarks are misleading. If a UMD is really 27 times slower than a mem stick, then Midnight Club would take at least 270 seconds to load a city, garage, etc based on my current 10 seconds city loading times from a 1GB Sandisk. A more realistic estimate for the Datel 4GB would be 25-30 seconds to load a MC3 city. Similar ratios for other long-loading time games, I would guess. don FicDic - Fri Oct 21 2005 16:52:33 Hong Kong Time
Bah, ugly shizzle...
I would never buy something like this because there are 2GB memory sticks you can put into the PSP. Jester - Fri Oct 21 2005 17:53:26 Hong Kong Time
I have a a USB caddy controller and 80gb laptop harddrive. Only cost £120 total and having the drive on a usb cable means its well out the way, plus it has its own power supply. Only thing is it only runs via the usb connection so you still have to transfer data on and off the drive to the memory stick nasis x - Fri Oct 21 2005 19:08:39 Hong Kong Time
Hi,
I am interested for 3 pieces of Datel 4GB Hard Drive for Sony PSP,
for my online shop.
Please tell me about the price,
including shippment cost (lower possible).
Best Regards nasis x. Larry - Fri Oct 21 2005 20:01:21 Hong Kong Time
Ridiculously cumbersome device! Soon the duo-pro from factor will come in 4GB, my advice - wait a little longer! This thing is a monster! PSPJunkie - Fri Oct 21 2005 23:20:58 Hong Kong Time
VERSION 2 should have these fixes:
-Screw GS Magicstor, their hard drives are very unreliable, go with Hitachi, just google and you'll see
-I don't see why people are complaining about bulkiness, but I do see that the shape is displeasing. They should curve the bulges so it feels more comfortable to cup them in your hands.
-get it to work w/6 & 8 GB microdrives
-the large capacity (35GB) Sandisk/Sony MS argument is moot. They won't charge ~$7000 for it but you can bet it will cost 2-3x more than Microdrive when you compare $/GB. That will never change, MD is the cheapest! Sam - Sat Oct 22 2005 05:29:49 Hong Kong Time
I think the PSP is already very bulky by itself. What's the warranty on this thing. Andrew - Sat Oct 22 2005 06:16:45 Hong Kong Time
ITS HUUUUUUUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SAY BYE BYE TO THE PORTABLE FEATURE OF THE PSP, AND HELLO TO THE BIGGEST THING YOU CANT FIT IN YOUR POCKET! Escorpi_Spain - Sat Oct 22 2005 09:35:11 Hong Kong Time
Me parece un estupendo producto, su unico defecto (auque comprensible)hace la PSP menos "portatil".las Memory Sticks son caras y limitadas a 2GB. compra indispensable!!!! pro - Sat Oct 22 2005 13:19:52 Hong Kong Time
i will pass, too UGLY Bob - Sat Oct 22 2005 14:06:28 Hong Kong Time
Theoretically the psp could have come with a 64 mb card, or maybe even a 128, but whats the point? I can't use anything smaller than a 512, and I wouldn't give up my 1gb for anything (except a 2 gb). A 32 mb is all the game saves you will ever need, and if you want to use it for more than game saves, you'd need to buy a memory card much larger than anything sony could possibly include without a huge jump in price. Ox - Sat Oct 22 2005 21:12:12 Hong Kong Time
What is most interesting to me was the CF cards working. Why not make one of these with a slot and slim the case down so CF's could be swapped easily? That I would buy for say $50 or so. Mark - Sat Oct 22 2005 22:08:17 Hong Kong Time
I've read all these comments and arguments and thought about what a 4GB psp could do. First of all, 125 grams is not a lot. Relax people. Second, when holding the psp with these attachements, you'll find that your fingers and hands wrap perfectly around them and add for extra grip! And third, this is just my own speculation, but with the possibility of a nice 4GB hdd to play with, and a little hacking skillz, couldn't someone put a real OS on there? Or at least a better, more functional UI? I don't know, but that would be cool. Final thoughts: This is a nice little attachment, and with some homebrew modifications, it could shape up to be very useful. Peace out. Mac D - Sat Oct 22 2005 22:35:51 Hong Kong Time
Sony include a 32 meg stick to keep their costs down and so they can sell larger sticks as a seperate commodity - its about the sales, its ALWAYS about the sales and making money. As for this nifty gadget i have one on order, the psp on its own cant fit into anyones pockets anyway (unless you have mc hammer trousers), and i think that it will make the psp more comfortable to use. If im walking the psp will be in my bag anyways so having the extra bulkiness on the back will make no difference, if im travelling in a car or train i simply get the psp out my bag and start playing. 4 gig = upto 8 films plus umpteen amounts of mp3's. pure genius if u ask me, cant wait till it arrives. des - Sat Oct 22 2005 23:00:58 Hong Kong Time
this thingy makes me love my 80gig OTG Hdd even more...... Ted - Sat Oct 22 2005 23:28:11 Hong Kong Time
32MB is not all the game saves you will ever need, if you intend to play sports games, save replays or season stats, play games like Colin Mcrae Rally which takes up 4MB to save total progress, download new Wipeout "packs" which alone currently total over 40MB on my MS. Sony's included 32MB stick was only enough to get people started with the launch games, which I think was fair since Sony's already taking losses on the PSP hardware due to production costs. A comparable product from a non-software/movie company would have cost double. Ted - Sun Oct 23 2005 00:27:46 Hong Kong Time
One thing I forgot to ask about before preordering was whether the memory stick adaptor that goes into the ms slot can be removed, once the HD is secured to the PSP, in order to use a memory stick I already own. Or does one need to remove the HD from the holes in order to access the ms compartment? In any case, I'll probably still be happy with my purchase at least until 2GB sticks cost less than $100 US K.Jones - Sun Oct 23 2005 00:47:42 Hong Kong Time
Wow. I am loving the size(capacity wise), but why the hell does it have to be so freakin' big? I barely use my PSP for gaming(because most of the games suck beside Burnout and the coming GTA) and I use it for music so I normally just slide my PSP into my pocket and go. With that add-on, I will need a backpack just for me to carry it comfortably. It won't fit into its previous cases, it won't slide into your pockets, and hopefully, in the next year, they will figure out how to keep all this in the HDD, but make the PSP maintain its normal form. Bob - Sun Oct 23 2005 01:17:59 Hong Kong Time
idk, I'm looking at these pics and which 4 gb is great, that add-on for it just looks uncomfortable as hell. Resonance - Sun Oct 23 2005 02:30:24 Hong Kong Time
{I would never buy something like this because there are 2GB memory sticks you can put into the PSP.}
Uh yeah, and that 2 gig stick costs the same as this harddrive, for half the capacity. Smart move, sensei. Frankie - Sun Oct 23 2005 04:37:57 Hong Kong Time
I can't believe all the negative comments about this device. It's what PSP "multimedia" users have been wanting. More storage space and longer battery life! I'd gladly give up use of my rubber skin grip or playgear case (at least until somebody makes one formatted to this shape and size)to have the ability to store SO MUCH media on my system and play for such extended periods of time. g - Sun Oct 23 2005 05:16:47 Hong Kong Time
i dont know what some of you are talking about. i can put 2 movies 3 shows and 8 cds of music on my 512 mb memorystick plus my homebrew. and the psp does fit in pockets so its really stupid to kill its portability like that. K - Sun Oct 23 2005 05:50:43 Hong Kong Time
Just a thought.
How about cut out the out the bottom of the playgear case and let the Hd and Batery pak sticking out, it might look less bulky. bbb - Sun Oct 23 2005 09:54:46 Hong Kong Time
they're coming out with a cf converter by the end of the month which is better than this piece of s*** Amine - Sun Oct 23 2005 12:41:10 Hong Kong Time
Waste of money 199usd and it's terribly not ergonomic for a portable video game.
nice idea but i prefer my PSP without it op - Sun Oct 23 2005 14:38:29 Hong Kong Time
Man, listen to some of you... people are actually complaining about the colour! What the hell is wrong with you guys? It's a 4 gig drive for the price of a 2 gig memory stick. Yeah it's bigger, and, heaven forbid, black (which might make your white PSP less of a fashion statement) but the bottom line is that it's by far the best solution available for people looking for more storage space.
oh, and whoever "g" is in the above post, I'd love to see you get all that on one 512 stick. Do your 8 cd's sound like you're listening to them through a can an a piece of string? Killarse - Sun Oct 23 2005 15:03:37 Hong Kong Time
Give it another 6-8 months, scan disk will come out with a 4GB mem stick. AnthonyN - Sun Oct 23 2005 16:04:32 Hong Kong Time
Is it possible to use this? USB 1.1 Host Adapter CF Card
CFU1U to get mass storage? asdnp - Sun Oct 23 2005 20:00:26 Hong Kong Time
very big size...
Oh... no -_-;; Christian - Sun Oct 23 2005 20:16:49 Hong Kong Time
Not sure, but is there any way to partition a flash drive or perhaps even a hard drive into small 4 gig partitions? This way you can have larger drive but in partitions.... brian... - Sun Oct 23 2005 23:06:53 Hong Kong Time
wow...that sounds like a good idea Christian...when i buy this i should get the "6gb mini drive" and try that ;) BowieBowie - Sun Oct 23 2005 23:27:09 Hong Kong Time
I live in Sweden and a 2gig Memory Stick cost around $270. This DATEL 4gig is cheaper... not to mention it comes with some tools that would cost if you buy separate. It's all good for me but maybe DATEL should make in 2 color for some ppl who have White PSP and Black PSP N. Ipsen - Sun Oct 23 2005 23:38:37 Hong Kong Time
Sigh. for the ergonomic freaks, check this pic: http://uk.codejunkies.com/images/article_images/psp-hd-birdseye-large.jpg
Also, whenSandisk finally comes out with a 4 GB MSDuo, it wil still be more expensive than the HDD. As a rukle, HDD is always cheaper than flash. Sephiroth_VII jonathan - Mon Oct 24 2005 06:04:45 Hong Kong Time
i have a battery that sticks out on the battery side like this thing and it feels way better easier to hold onto hDy - Mon Oct 24 2005 13:28:58 Hong Kong Time
I just pre-ordered one of these, I was looking at the pictures and I do dislike the fact that it adds bulk to the unit, so I plan to extend the cable from the CF to the psp to about 3 or 4 ft, the solder points are pretty big, by doing this you can stick the hdd in your pocket and you don't *need* to use the large battery, I've got a pelicon external battery as well, problem solved, the unit will now fit in my Playgear case with little modification and it won't be bulky, just have 2 wires (one for battery, one for hdd) pretty simple :) Necro - Mon Oct 24 2005 14:26:04 Hong Kong Time
i buy it with $80 nett price navs - Mon Oct 24 2005 15:37:51 Hong Kong Time
wel i think they should make a 2gb hdd and make it a lot less bulky and the X2 battery pack is way to bulky i ca get one which is smaller than the normal battery pack the psp uses and i am sure most of you guys can aswell but still a great idea if u r desperate for memory on your psp but if u wait until thee end of the year it'll be atleast 50$ (US) cheaper and the 2gb memory stick can be easily got for only $120 and it'll go down by another $20 if you wait until the end of the year or chrismas because they always have sales don't they stuart - Mon Oct 24 2005 16:27:18 Hong Kong Time
this is a bril product but for $200 makes it too exspensive i would wait for a price drop plus it will make the psp so uncomfortable to hold and it will loose that sleek thin look it has Por baa - Mon Oct 24 2005 22:45:34 Hong Kong Time
Do they have a case for it? If not how to protect my PSP? raytard - Mon Oct 24 2005 23:26:44 Hong Kong Time
you're all badmouthing something youve never even seen in real life, and the only complaint you have is that its bulky. one guy complained that the manufacturer of the microdrive is crap. its to keep costs down. im getting this just for the fact that it can synch with my mp4 player and i now have 24gigs of whatever the heck i want to put on it. (hey, thast like a dozen games, 5000songs, and 5-6 movies.
cmon, are your pockets really that small? whats an extra half an inch? the unit is too thin anyway, especially for someone with larger hands like me. Zuman - Tue Oct 25 2005 00:19:56 Hong Kong Time
obviously, most of u dont have a clue how awesome this product is. it is bulky, but great. Sure, MSP duo will come out in 4gb capacity someday, but at what price. 2gb is in range of $200+, the $150 is BACK ORDER for 2 months plus. And will sony ever allow such product to exist? NOT a chance in hell. If you are going to wait for 4gb DUO, why not wait for PSP2. oh wait, i will wait for psp3 instead. it will come with a 1TB duo stick. Por baa - Tue Oct 25 2005 01:55:28 Hong Kong Time
Do they have a case for it? If not how to protect my PSP? Redundant - Tue Oct 25 2005 03:00:50 Hong Kong Time
Why are people who don't even want to buy this complaining? The only negative review that I have seen of it was disputed by two others right away, and the complainer didn't even have facts that matched up to physics ( he actually said that it was slower than his UMD, if so maybe he had a defective unit - I think he was just full of it... ). Its - too bulky, slower than MS Duo, not ergonomic, too expensive - Its not as bulky as some of the add-on cases available, its faster than UMD, its virtually the same size on both ends, and its less expensive than a 4gb MS Duo! If you don't want to buy it for whatever reason, I don't really see the point of your putting crappy comments... Yes it would be nice if it was slimmer, prettier, cheaper, and faster, but what world do you think that that product currently exists in besides your imagination! andy smith - Tue Oct 25 2005 03:07:55 Hong Kong Time
its a great idea pity about the size surely its easier to carry a couple of 2gb memory cards and fit the psp in your pocket than have this attached to the back Garrett - Tue Oct 25 2005 04:00:32 Hong Kong Time
It would be great if you could get the memstick to CF convertor only. I don't want the HDD or the battery. I already have lots of CF cards. That'd be worth $35 just for the adaptor.
Anyone have any news on when/if that might happen? Ban - Tue Oct 25 2005 05:11:36 Hong Kong Time
Yeah the memstick to CF convertor would be so much more affordable. I would definitely pay 35-40 bucks for it. A7mag3ddon - Tue Oct 25 2005 05:44:51 Hong Kong Time
Ive bought one, CF cards are much cheaper :-) thenetavenger - Tue Oct 25 2005 15:55:38 Hong Kong Time
Fat32 FUD?
Ok, first there WERE limitations in the FAT32 file system that did limiit it to 32GB.
This was NOT a ploy on MS's part to move people to NTFS.
Secondly, do you realize that even using FAT or FAT32 is a 'courtesy' of Microsoft, as it is THEIR file system, and they could have closed access to it to anyone but them and required licensing to use it.
Instead they did and continue to let HD and Memory Flash Makers use FAT32 technology for FREE.
SO if you want to bitch about Microsoft's FAT32 being limited to 32GB. 1) Realize at the time, there were true retriction to NOT BREAK applicaiton compatiblity due to the address size when dealing with older Windows applications, not a ploy on MS's part. 2) It is a format that MS is letting people use for FREE.
In fact, MS lets companies use NTFS for free, so why aren't these companies just using it?
Becuase they want the pre Year 2000 Windows and Mac market that can't read NTFS drives. PERIOD.
Kaize - Tue Oct 25 2005 19:05:22 Hong Kong Time
Some of you are just silly. Do you guys actually put the PSP in your pocket? The system alone is not small enough for you to do that. This is such a steal, its better than any of the cards out there. And who gives a crap about the look, if your getting 4gbs of space? YOu guys take your PSPs around for the looks? Sad people. inkssick - Tue Oct 25 2005 20:39:45 Hong Kong Time
way way too bulky. very nice and all this about upgrading it to other larger hard drives looks the future but you cant expect to play movies, play legit ISO's on it with those 2 massive things sticking out the back. I was happy with this but this wont even be an option for me. 2gb memory card is. Until someone cracks the space specifics. AnthonyB-UK - Tue Oct 25 2005 22:31:01 Hong Kong Time
I have been thinking of going for the 2GB stick until I saw this.
I can use my std memory stick for day to day stuff but when I have a joourney to make, I have no need for my portable DVD, no need for the iPod. If bat and the drive way only a couple of hundred grams, compare that to these two items as well as 4 or five dvds!!!
Might not look as cool as i would want it too, but at the end of the day, all I'm interstined in is being entertained (Oh by the way, dvd players battery or lap-top won't last anything like that long) Fernando - Tue Oct 25 2005 23:17:24 Hong Kong Time
and what about a 8gb compact flash? Nando - Tue Oct 25 2005 23:48:01 Hong Kong Time
Ieeeep!!! some of you are forgetting the umd drive unit we have attached in our psp's. why dont they produce a small hdd, something similar to a ipod hdd, and fit it in the umd drive space? Do you remember the Sony Mavica, this digital camera that had a floppy disk in it? this is basically the same, a huge space in the middle of the machine.
Think about it. Pagani - Wed Oct 26 2005 00:06:46 Hong Kong Time
u can use Partition Magic to format disk with more that 32GB Scott - Wed Oct 26 2005 02:15:59 Hong Kong Time
FAT32’s only real limitation is that it can not store files larger the 4GB. You can format any drive with FAT32 if you use a DOS boot up disk like I do and always have. FDISK determines the fat table, NOT format. Windows is why you got the limitation at 32GB, because by default it formats anything above 2GB with NTFS.
I have 120GB and 200GB hard Drives formatted with FAT32.
FAT32’s advantages:
• Smaller Clusters (Less Wasted Space)
FAT32’s disadvantages:
• Can not store file over 4GB.
• Fragments easily.
train1 - Wed Oct 26 2005 09:31:17 Hong Kong Time
thenetavenger: wrong, wrong, wrong...
Microsoft isn't "courteously allowing" anyone to use "their" filesystem... they fought like hell to enforce their patent and just lost. http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6153986/ http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16697 http://www.out-law.com/page-6202
And I suppose I'm just hallucinating right now when I look at my 100gb FAT32 ethernet HD? (I have it in FAT32 so my linux box can also map to it)
...thanks for playing, please try again yeehou - Wed Oct 26 2005 11:42:45 Hong Kong Time
Received the item today. Awesome product! Shiaoran - Wed Oct 26 2005 14:18:29 Hong Kong Time
Too big and seems uncomfortable.
And I bet that in a couple of months they'll release a 5gb version, then a 6gb then 7 then 8 then 9... And in about a year what you have is junk. Yukikaze - Wed Oct 26 2005 14:48:47 Hong Kong Time
Wow it looks like the bottom of a japanese sandal charly - Wed Oct 26 2005 16:38:22 Hong Kong Time
thats f**g cool muscrat - Wed Oct 26 2005 18:14:53 Hong Kong Time
I like the idea of the 4gig drive but i too carry my psp in my pocket to listen to music ect with my 1gb.
Because this is the first hd for the psp id wait and see the next range of hard drives ( hopefully smaller), and scandisk will probably try and outdo the hd by lowering mem stick prices or having a go at their own type of hd. My 1 gig stick hold my games or movies and music, which`ll last em to the newer 'improved' micro drive. Word! Ted - Wed Oct 26 2005 21:55:41 Hong Kong Time
New electronic entertainment purchases are all about the NOW as opposed to "in a few months". For example, all those who waited until recently to buy a PSP missed out on months of fun with Wipeout and Lumines alone, not to mention all the homebrew stuff. Likewise those who wait for a 6gb version, or higher, might as well wait for the next big handheld, or scrap handhelds alltogether and just get an xbox 360 or ps3 with that same money. I for one don't mind getting a slightly larger and/or lower capacity product sooner, as I run the risk of getting bored with the platform itself and just selling it if I don't get gratification up front. This Datel drive represents the kind of upfront salivatory gratification to which anything for which I wait months (even the xbox 360) will pale in comparison, such is the nature of hype. Tracking says my datel should be in hand in about and hour. bubba - Thu Oct 27 2005 04:11:02 Hong Kong Time
i cant knock it till i try it... i think its good. the size of the psp ,first off, isnt small; i can barely fit it into my pocket now...the hard drive will probably stop the cramping in my hands as i play.thats a good thing.And just the 4gb... i love it. i dont like to keep changing memory sticks to listen to music,then watch a movie... lots'o space = good super dooper - Thu Oct 27 2005 07:04:34 Hong Kong Time
Looks like the sega gamegear battery packs,hmm interesting eastbayarb - Thu Oct 27 2005 12:26:06 Hong Kong Time
I just got mine today (shipped via EMS took 2 DAYS!!!) and I LOVE IT! It really doesn't feel that bulky. I have large hands and the PSP alone feels very thin (kinda like the Tapwave Zodiac) and this feels fine. I don't care about it's "bulky look" as many people seem to bitch about. This thing is fast and the x2 battery is a GREAT touch. I just with the included USB cable could charge the battery (like the 2-in-1 cables can). Scott - Thu Oct 27 2005 21:10:37 Hong Kong Time
Now, if they could make a "Ceramic" one to match the new PSP. [...] Kamiko Hanakuro - Thu Oct 27 2005 21:33:24 Hong Kong Time
Don't know, whats your problem with bulkiness, guys. I think these atachments makes the psp feel more like the PS2 controler.
And 200$ for 4gb O.O ... I live In Germany, where you have to pay 100€ (approximately 122$) for 1gig and more than doubble for 2gig. So this is great, I think ... maybe it will be my christmas present ;) Redundant - Thu Oct 27 2005 21:45:58 Hong Kong Time
I got the two I ordered for me and my friend yesterday! ( 2 days DHL ) All I can say is that I love it! I have medium sized hands, and they would start to cramp holding the too slim PSP after awhile. The HDD/X2 combo adds some size to the PSP and makes it easier to grasp ( for me anyway ). I really can't even tell the difference in weight, I guess I could if I had an unenhanced PSP in my other hand ( but these things are light! ). There is a perceivable slowdown in the loading of icons in the PSP menu when compared to a MS Duo Pro, but it is basically not sufficient enough to complain about ( for example, loading the list of songs in the MUSIC folder takes more than twice as long - but I currently have no sub-folders which would cut that down if fewer songs were in each ). Oh, and even though my PSP has face armor it can still fit into my GameStop branded carrying case with the HDD/X2 installed ( and my pockets as well, but I am not trying to stuff a $200+ device into a pair of jeans... ). Zoolander - Fri Oct 28 2005 09:27:04 Hong Kong Time
Umm..yea, i ordered one..and umm how the hell do you attach it? don't tell me its a sticky burnfused - Fri Oct 28 2005 23:10:00 Hong Kong Time
cool gadget,its bulky or not is not a problem....i gonna get one..thks to liksang for having this kind of gadget!!! Avenrosh - Sat Oct 29 2005 01:48:55 Hong Kong Time
Does anyone think you might be able to do a case mod to the HD enclosure if you use CompactFlash instead of a MicroDrive? The bulk of the unit is a little too much for me... TrungTran - Sat Oct 29 2005 04:01:30 Hong Kong Time
The shipping was so fast i was very surprised...stop complaining about the 4 gig if you didn't buy one. I think the bulkiness help makes it easy to hold and comfortable. Thanks alot liksang. F-P - Sun Oct 30 2005 05:58:22 Hong Kong Time
Nice Item overall, plays movies, games, and homebrew just fine. music skips because it uses a buffer system that causes the music to stop each time it loads more music (this works fine with mem sticks because of the extremely fast read time) also, if the psp is reading from the drive and you even touch the flexible interface attatchment, it will lose the connection (annoying when used with video) more comfortable with the hdd and battery, and the battery hasnt run out yet (4 hrs: 2 with GTALCS and 1 with south park, and 1 with dark side of the moon) Ted - Sun Oct 30 2005 14:23:01 Hong Kong Time
I've been using mine for 3 days, and I'n curious to know what kind of MB/sec writing speed you guys are getting to the HD from computer using USB 2.0 cable. Roblet - Mon Oct 31 2005 03:29:19 Hong Kong Time
Wtf guys honestly
You guys are bitching about the size of the psp + addon
While other people are bitching that the size of the psp is too damn skinny just make up your f**g mind
I ordered this product just BECAUSE ITS SO BULKY i mean wow more space too hold then i saw the price (omfg) it costs about the same or less then a 2 gig sticky and then you start bitching
Just wait for the time to get a 4 gig stick and then 2 gig wil drop price...ever thought that people want bigger space NOW and not LATER also when the 4 gig stick comes out the 8 gig harddrive will be available and guess what...this one will drop its price too :0
Omfg suprise
Anyhow people stop bitching and start posting more useful crap about how wonderful this product is
Kthnxbai darran - Mon Oct 31 2005 04:35:37 Hong Kong Time
Great product apart from jumpy video.How and what is the best method for formatting the drive?
Fumega - Mon Oct 31 2005 09:03:36 Hong Kong Time
I don´t want to transform my PSP into a tank.... Bill - Mon Oct 31 2005 12:31:03 Hong Kong Time
I think the main question most people have is, how well does homebrew work? Well I'd say perfectly albeit 3x slower than memory stick. All my games and in-game video have run smoothly and acceptably fast. However, I compared viewing a photo album of 50-60 pictures on the HD vs. the same one on a mem stick and the HD seemed painfully slow updating each photo, sharpening it after you select it, etc. Not REALLY slow, but just slow enough that quickly browsing photos is best left for the mem stick. Like I said tho, homebrew and other media works great and that's what I bought the Datel for. I'm glad I bought it, but I still wish (dream!) that it were a mem stick. Maybe next year.
macmall10 - Mon Oct 31 2005 13:21:38 Hong Kong Time
f the 4 gb hard drive the 1gb is good enough i would rather buy the 2x battery instead just to have more power, and have you ever heard of atrac you can just convert your music to smaller files and save more memory ive stored more than 150 songs on my 1gb mrdink - Mon Oct 31 2005 22:58:04 Hong Kong Time
I'm still waiting on mine. i ordered it last sunday the day before it came out. :( im hoping for today! mrdink - Tue Nov 1 2005 00:28:00 Hong Kong Time
spoke to soon...maybe 30 mins after my post i recieved it in the mail. so far so good. i love the size. makes it more comfortable. have been able to play any games on it yet though. BowieBowie - Tue Nov 1 2005 01:06:59 Hong Kong Time
I tried to replaced the Microdrive 4gig with my CF Kingstone Elite Pro 1gig... it's much faster and work nice =) dudethatwantsthis - Tue Nov 1 2005 12:18:20 Hong Kong Time
I really like this, it is so much better, then neo flash teams converter, this comes with a battery and a usb cable and soft ware, plus, you don't need to buy anything else except a psp to use it! T-2000 - Tue Nov 1 2005 13:00:04 Hong Kong Time
forget the technical stuff..got loads of movies and they all jitter audio sync problems, if you want it for movies forget it, unless u upgrade to firmware 2 or higher, but for iso and other stuff its great... Alan - Tue Nov 1 2005 13:06:36 Hong Kong Time
no good if you like your movies, audio goes out, i like my emus and iso so its great for me.. Redundant - Tue Nov 1 2005 23:38:20 Hong Kong Time
I have a PSP 1.50, and I wanted to say about the movie jitter/audio sync problems that for me that only happen on video files that were encoded at certain resolutions and bit rate combinations. I actually only have one file that does this, and it was encoded at a resolution of 416 by 176 ( which is not officially supported I might add ). My encodes at 320 by 240 and 368 by 208 at 384 or 216kbps video and 32 to 96kbps stereo audio at either 15 or 30fps all seem to work fine. I think that some encodes exceed the kbps limit of the 1.50 codecs is all. Berserker2kDoom - Tue Nov 1 2005 23:41:46 Hong Kong Time
Got it on Sunday in NYC, tis thing is insane. Even the software is comes with in kool. Once you update the Media Manager it supports AVC codec, of course you need firmware 2.0 but it the quality ins insane. High Quality anime at 64mb. With space a little under 4gig kool. Plus the Battery Pack gives up alot of power for a longer period of time. The Bulk does not hinder the feel of the PSP. It actually feels better. [...] Neo4Psoudo - Wed Nov 2 2005 00:33:43 Hong Kong Time
Not portable anymore? Are we using our brains? "Its not bulky at all..." What kind of ass keeps a psp in their pocket anyway. I only bring mine when I'm going to use it. Now, as read earlier, 2gb = $150. 4gb and batt = $200. It would cost you $300 for the same space w/o the batt. If you don't need 4gb and longer batt life then you you probably don't need a 1gb duo. These accessories are for people who really use their psp's. I can fit 300 nes games,500 gen games,about 30 neo-geo, all of turbo gfx16, most of snes, and now 150 mame games; 3 movies, tons of mp3's and apps and more.4gb is a lot! Anyone with walking sense can see that this is soo much better. 5 1/2hrs is a long ass time to sit and play. That's a part time job! If you need any longer, I recommend something called a girlfriend. People who don't like it just don't understand the capabilities and should not upgrade anything. I have over 2500 games that I have'nt mentioned and the batt life to run it. Don't be misled by stupid comments from a teenager who hasn't spent their hard earned money. Everyone who has it, loves it. I was gonna buy a laptop just for emu's but since this 4gb came there is no need. How's that for bulk. Bulk should not be an issue. The accessories are "removable." rich - Wed Nov 2 2005 02:29:47 Hong Kong Time
look its huge! It sticks out like a sour thumb So-Unreal - Wed Nov 2 2005 12:06:33 Hong Kong Time
I have been able to put in a 5GB CF for 4759MB :)
http://home.earthlink.net/~unreal/images/psp%204759.JPG kalote - Wed Nov 2 2005 19:42:07 Hong Kong Time
Un bon produit, je viens de le recevoir, et il fonctionne niquel, pas de problème ....... Un merveilleux achat !!! Ziggy - Thu Nov 3 2005 00:40:52 Hong Kong Time
Thats Amazing 4759 mb is sick i am going to buy this product for sure there is no bulkyness issue it's evened out on both sides anyways. I just wish that they had put rubber on it so it would give extra grip. FaustianDeal - Thu Nov 3 2005 16:56:12 Hong Kong Time
Unreal - 5GB? How did you deal with the FAT16 issue? el mexicano - Thu Nov 3 2005 23:47:47 Hong Kong Time
To Alan: I also had video going out of sync and stuff when using firmware 1.50 ; I upgraded to firmware 2.00 after calling Datel (their cust support told me that was the problem) and it's perfect now :) PSP man - Fri Nov 4 2005 17:21:29 Hong Kong Time
EXCELLENT PRODUCT! Must have it! I could actually copied 4 full movies and still have loads of space for pics and mp3s ...... BTW, it is not really bulky as other says, it is definitely quite playable also it does not defeat at all the portability concept to the contrary it extends it .... !!! This is a good deal, you get the cable, software, 4gb memory and 2x battery what you want more with this price. With same I only can get 2gb memory that's it! vincent - Sun Nov 6 2005 00:50:57 Hong Kong Time
It´s an ugly thing, that´s true. But I´d really like to have 4GB on my PSP! [...] Tito Andre - Sun Nov 6 2005 05:36:13 Hong Kong Time
I am very positive about your shipping of my 4 gb hard disc from DATA Products. It works wonderful and perfect together with the software. PERFECT !
I will tell anyone who wants to have products from LIK SANG !!! smartthinker - Sun Nov 6 2005 12:20:27 Hong Kong Time
they happen to have 100gb compact flash cards, and if u were 2 put that on it would have enough space as a real hardrive Dr. Bob - Sun Nov 6 2005 23:49:15 Hong Kong Time
could anyone post some sizes of the psp with the hd and batt, and stand alone sizes too, that would really help people who havent bought it with the size issue. Also, I was thinking of purchasing the PSP Giga pack, should I buy that alone, or get the original value pack then buy the hd and battery pack? any help would be great, Thanks! Pyrodawg - Mon Nov 7 2005 01:58:32 Hong Kong Time
How do you transfer your save data from the stick to the HDD? Killer Unleashed - Tue Nov 8 2005 11:52:57 Hong Kong Time
I think its a smart idea but it looks kinda big. atomic737 - Wed Nov 9 2005 20:23:24 Hong Kong Time
Ah is it just me or have people lost the plot over this product. HDD these days can hold 100x this amount for a cheaper price. This is just to put it in perspective. The storage space we're getting compared to the price is just not worth it. What i want is a MS duo - USB interface so that we can use whatever storage we currently own, and update it indefinantly. You could use a cable instead of strapping the storage device onto the back of the psp. the blob - Wed Nov 9 2005 20:44:57 Hong Kong Time
Yeah atomic, if I connect my PC's harddrive to my PSP then I would have lots of storage space, how great. This cool solution here still makes the PSP _portable_ and that's what it's (also) about. dralaquan - Thu Nov 10 2005 16:27:13 Hong Kong Time
Hi, lik-sang i love ur 4 gb harddrive but is there a way to make the lumps disappear.:)
swede - Thu Nov 10 2005 23:12:42 Hong Kong Time
As many have said - bulky. I hope lik-sang will be selling 4GB (and larger) ms pro duo when (b/c I hope it's not "if") they are released. gah - Fri Nov 11 2005 04:56:07 Hong Kong Time
[...] here let me spit out the facts. This things price = 164.50 EUROS for a battery and a 4 gig storage room
For 200 EUROS you will get a 2 gig Pro-Duo stick without a battery now you guys do the math
another thing is
omfg i have a 300 terrabyte hard drive (sarcasm) i can connect that too my psp so i wont have to do with 4 gigabyte
Learn to read the damn article you *** it said it cant handle even 8 gigabyte d:
last but not least
people saying my psp isnt portable anymore. I say get some damn elbow grease and lift up your heavy 0.5 KG (if it reaches that) PSP
or then the people
IT doesnt fit in my pants anymore
it was never ment too fit in your pants why do you think we got travel boxes [...]
also for the people that wannna watch movies so bad
upgrade your stinking psp to 2.0 and audio sync will be no problem anymore you gotta make a choice homebrew / movies, you make the damn pick [...]
i think its a great product i own one and i am happy with it jase - Fri Nov 11 2005 09:52:01 Hong Kong Time
I can understand why you scrawny geeks think it's too heavy. Go outside and get some sunshine, maybe some exercise. Geesh! AJ - Sat Nov 12 2005 12:27:33 Hong Kong Time
this is cool and might be comfortable while playing, but it needs a case that it will fit in to. i dont want to leave my psp just sitting out without a case. vargusvictor - Mon Nov 14 2005 06:06:36 Hong Kong Time
I wanted one but if there is any problem using it with a 1.5 firmware PSP I don't have any use for it. In the write up it recommends upgrading to 2.0. I have a 1.5 and a 2.0 (for games that require 2.0 and up firmware) but the only reason I would buy this is for use with my 1.5. What exactly are the issues with using this with a 1.5 PSP? chrisvong - Mon Nov 14 2005 06:44:58 Hong Kong Time
It's not so much that it is bulky. I think, that it is rather ugly. Think about it, you have this wonderfully sleek PSP that is functional and beautiful at the same time, and you stick two ugly square lumps unto the back, suddenly it doesn't seem very sleek anymore (just look at the pictures). Although 4gigs seems tempting, I'm just wondering if its worth it. plur - Mon Nov 14 2005 06:59:15 Hong Kong Time
wow this is great I can now fit all of my movies with a reasonable quality or all of my mp3 or a hybrid of the two as for the exta bulk well worth it i think aNdReW - Mon Nov 14 2005 07:19:18 Hong Kong Time
Well, in comparison to the 2Gb Memory Stick on sale, it's about the same price in Canadian dollars. That makes for double the memory and double the battery life also. Pretty sweet deal. Although there is the huge bulk sticking out the back. So for price, I'd say get it. mxiia - Mon Nov 14 2005 07:58:36 Hong Kong Time
why get an ipod when you can get this? 4lc0h0l - Tue Nov 15 2005 07:29:07 Hong Kong Time
lol an ipod is totally different and has more space =D -.- dont compare plz. plur - Tue Nov 15 2005 10:29:17 Hong Kong Time
in the us 2Gb memory stick duo is going for about 50 bucks more than the hard drive PSPDS - Wed Nov 16 2005 10:22:53 Hong Kong Time
This POS is too big. It wont fit in my pocket and guess choosing over Homebrews or Movies is something unacceptable. I would like to have both and adding homebrews only sucks. For MP3's its a waste. Damn, this MFPOS sUx. Redundant - Thu Nov 17 2005 17:03:45 Hong Kong Time
I do everything with this upgrade that I did when I had a straight 1.5 PSP and more, and the only things that my friend with the 2.0 has over me are a browser that he never uses, the ability to put wallpaper in the background, and the AVC codec. Not much if you ask me, and he misses all of the 1.5 stuff. On my 1.5 PSP on the other hand, giving up that stuff I only really lose the wallpaper thing. I can still browse if I really want to, there is a new IRC client for it as well, and I can play DIVX movies at 480x272 res ( ~30fps )... It is true that the built in player for 1.5 has a problem with some movies encoded at odd resolutions and 30fps, but it was only originally designed to do 320x240@15fps from the memory stick! I have gotten 368x208@30fps to work fine with the right video/audio bitrates, and there is more than one homebrew player now like the DIVX one. I have not had any skipping problems with my MP3s either, but maybe the people who do have theirs at a high bitrate encode. There are homebrew music players as well, in several different formats. So, $200 for 4GB and a 3600mAh battery, or $150 for a 2GB memory stick...
And I still am not gonna stick a $200+ dollar piece of electronic in my F'in pants! Damn posers! DieAllWhoOppose - Sat Nov 19 2005 09:08:29 Hong Kong Time
Has potential, looks bulky, really expensive, and have they tested it with long term use? Since it has moving parts, it is sure to eventually wear out. I want to see if they can come out with something that has more memory, and is not as big. I will probably get on, because I use it a lot, and really like to play movies and music. guamguy - Sat Nov 19 2005 15:25:28 Hong Kong Time
why doesnt Datel make a memory stick to memory stick duo adapter? Then it wont even need extra battery to power it. Guru84 - Mon Nov 21 2005 06:40:02 Hong Kong Time
Looks like pants designers are going to have to start making pockets deeper and bigger. BIbBY - Mon Nov 21 2005 08:30:08 Hong Kong Time
Its too bulky for a tech savvy person to whip out, unless ur like me and wear baggy pants. I wouldnt mind payin $200 for a hard drive; instead of getting four 1GB memory sticks. alexander - Tue Nov 22 2005 06:49:36 Hong Kong Time
some of those comments are just too funny!
"Guru84 - Mon Nov 21 2005 06:40:02 Hong Kong Time
Looks like pants designers are going to have to start making pockets deeper and bigger."
LOL! Trey - Tue Nov 22 2005 10:44:20 Hong Kong Time
I had just bought my system off this site and they sent me a bad unit but this website is so good i sent them a mes. and they took care of everything and sent it back using dhl .... This product is amazing you cant beat it 2x the memory of a 2gb and 2x the battery life... also the bulkness doesnt matter u can keep it slim when not using it and then when you are ready to play just put the memory card in it makes it feel better for hands and then when ur done take it out again to put back in pocket .... Dc1465 - Thu Nov 24 2005 15:29:09 Hong Kong Time
I'm gonna get a Psp soon and i wanna hold lots of movies, music and stuff, on my Psp, so i need a big Hardrive and this 4gb thing is this biggest i'v seen but its f***ing big and bulky, but if they made a 4gb or higher memory stick it would be perfect but as far as i no there not, they probably will though and it would cost more then $200, but does anybody no any sites that talk about upcoming hardives or memory sticks there coming out with Pw - Fri Nov 25 2005 13:30:13 Hong Kong Time
just wonder...why dont sony produce a new build in hard drive psp? a internal harddisk with lots of capacity....so we wont be having headache buying new memory sticks! doubleodusty - Fri Nov 25 2005 16:07:47 Hong Kong Time
way to bulky..too bad it wasnt invisible,lol Lead_Factor - Sat Nov 26 2005 11:07:23 Hong Kong Time
if a 5gig CF card can work why wouldnt it be possible to just partion a 10gig into two 5gig partions...or even better why not partion a 32gig CF card 8 times into 4gig partions! bobmonkey - Sun Nov 27 2005 07:09:17 Hong Kong Time
no ways dude, with the added size on the psp, it feels more like a game controller now. i cant believe how much better it feels to play. the loading times are minimal and 4 gigs gives you a lot of music [...]. its about the best investment you can get for your psp. rice - Sun Nov 27 2005 12:57:31 Hong Kong Time
4 gig hard drive=199.00
1 gig memory stick=199.00
the choice is easy DZ - Mon Nov 28 2005 04:02:37 Hong Kong Time
Got one and its great, It feels better in the hand something to grip onto, people who are saying to bulky haven't even got one and are judging purely on looks. I paid £125 4GB + 3600mAh battery when a 2GB pro duo is £90 I know what makes more sense. PSPDude - Mon Nov 28 2005 07:53:44 Hong Kong Time
For the price I would pay for this, I could get an iPOD Nano and fit more songs or a standard 20GB iPOD HeyNow - Mon Nov 28 2005 21:32:08 Hong Kong Time
I just can't believe all the negative comments on this, for the case buy a small padded camera bag, 4gb is 4gb, how awesome, no matter what your argument it is cheaper if you break down penny for mb or gb, twice the battery, no brainer for all the complaints about keeping this unit portable, and lastly holding this is like holding your wireless gaming console for the PS2, feels perfect! Awesome job Datel! I am sure Sony will pull through, they always do! sensible - Tue Nov 29 2005 22:24:54 Hong Kong Time
Are you lot serious?Load 2 movies on at 177mb each using nero recode. Watch. delete. Load more on. Same with your music. Do you guys leave your movies on your psp forever and want to store 8000 songs (of which I can guarentee you only listen to the same 20 or so anyway!) 1 gig is plenty. This makes your psp look like it's a ps2. How about carrying around a portable dvd player and a box of dvd's. It'd be smaller than your "funky new" psp. A lot cheaper as well. Yeah go buy one! One day the psp2 will be out and your 50gig card will be insufficient then as well. Scott - Wed Nov 30 2005 02:29:33 Hong Kong Time
This thing is AWESOME!
Granted, the PSP is not as compact, but to be honest, it feels more stable in your hands. Feels like you are holding the Cordless Logitech Controllers (Which are a little bigger then the standard PS2 Controller).
Now, if DATEL could come out with a Case to accommodate the Battery and Drive, that would be a plus!
paul - Wed Nov 30 2005 12:34:58 Hong Kong Time
AAAH it's godzilla! it's huuuge Isaac - Thu Dec 1 2005 20:34:48 Hong Kong Time
I prefer my 2.0gb memory stick, but this looks fun for long trips or airplane rides :) PSPete - Sat Dec 3 2005 07:30:21 Hong Kong Time
Had lots of problems with this - spent like 2hours putting in homebrew and mp4's - managed to like play a game then the next time i tried to put more things into the drive it just didnt see the drive - i reformatted many times and never had much success - reported to Datel and they gave me back a refund. The size of the thing that sits under the PSP is quite bulky too, not to mention that the HD wire/cable protrudes and wraps around the side of the mem slot - so if ur not careful u can damage it easily by spilling drinks or easily snap it out of place.
Wait for 2gb's to drop to a lower and more reasonable price say like around £50 then its more worthy, cos at the moment x2gbs is almost the price of another PSP! LOL sensible is not very sensible - Sun Dec 4 2005 10:53:19 Hong Kong Time
So many stupid comments...no idea where to start.
"...want to store 8000 songs (of which I can guarentee you only listen to the same 20 or so anyway!)"
No..just no. You must not listen to music very often then.
"One day the psp2 will be out and your 50gig card will be insufficient then as well."
Yeah, "one day." If everyone used this kind of logic, noone would buy anything, because they would always wait for the next version of the product, and products are always becoming more and more advanced. Darkpaw - Sun Dec 4 2005 14:04:50 Hong Kong Time
People must be to use to holdin small THINGS in there hands. They get mad when they find something bigger then them.:p lol Leroy - Sun Dec 4 2005 22:13:08 Hong Kong Time
All ya'll complainin' about the bulkiness that's okay. You pay $200 for 2 Gigs I'll pay $200 for 4 Gigs plus a more battery life. This math makes perfect sense. garth - Mon Dec 5 2005 05:21:23 Hong Kong Time
if u could partition a 10gb compact flash card into two 5gb partitions, how would u access the other partition on the PSP? bud - Mon Dec 5 2005 05:48:12 Hong Kong Time
Can u swap out the 4gb microdrive with a 5gb type II CF card? DannyK - Thu Dec 8 2005 15:25:26 Hong Kong Time
I'd much rather have something that can hold whatever I want it to. The PSP is becoming more and more like a pocket-sized PC, and this hard drive is proof of that. I love the added weight and width personally. It's nice to have full feeling in my fingers after a long day of Madden or GTA. I give Datel 2 thumbs WAY UP on this! :) mjadamci - Sat Dec 10 2005 02:36:29 Hong Kong Time
Like it for certain circumstances. I took it on to the plane and was able to watch 3 movies until the battery wore out. Thats impressive. I was able to put 4 movies and two 45 minute shows on to it. At high quality video though the harddrive had stop and go lag times which made the video unwatchable. You have to have a 2 hour movie less than 1 gig. My 1.2 gig, 2 hour movie skipped because the harddrive couldn't keep up but under a gig it ran perfectly. For $200 on a double capacity battery and a 4 gig harddrive, its fairly reasonable. Plus, with the two attached, it sits up nicely for viewing on the planes seat trays! Memnarch - Sat Dec 10 2005 06:56:57 Hong Kong Time
why not just network a 500 gig HD and connect to it via the psps wireless capability JaiD - Mon Dec 12 2005 11:59:01 Hong Kong Time
they were saying that you were unable to use a 6gig drive through the PSP USB cable. What if you plug the drive into a card reader, load what you want and then plug back in???
Do you then get the full 6gig data on the PSP???
although this is a bit of trouble, 6gig (and more later) would make it the portable entertainment available! Eric J. Woody - Wed Dec 14 2005 07:51:29 Hong Kong Time
Technology is only going to get better. I think this is a good step towards the future of the PSP.
Nishikao - Thu Dec 15 2005 10:45:49 Hong Kong Time
is it out in singapore yet? lou - Fri Dec 16 2005 05:01:35 Hong Kong Time
yea this is too bulky BUT i think i might like it because my hands are big. i hold my psp w/ my fingers n its uncomfortable. i guess im too used to HOLDING a controller w/ my HANDS, so yea i think i'll like this. ol god - Fri Dec 16 2005 20:36:57 Hong Kong Time
i have just purchased one of these and they are brilliant,i dnt no y loads of u r complaining erick - Sun Dec 18 2005 02:17:46 Hong Kong Time
The 4GB is awesome i cant wait to get my hands on it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dakota - Tue Dec 20 2005 02:55:45 Hong Kong Time
Im just wondering if there are any cases that can hold the psp with the harddrive and extra battery pack on it. rahulneel - Wed Dec 21 2005 05:30:47 Hong Kong Time
Can the PSP + 4 GB Datel HDD fit into a Logitech Playgear STREET ? nick - Wed Dec 21 2005 06:49:14 Hong Kong Time
i am going to like this......big hands...it is either this or the ridiculous controller thingers....this has greater net benefits. Khan - Fri Dec 23 2005 20:07:33 Hong Kong Time
This product is awsome, I can fit millions of stuff here.
Sure it takes away the beauty of the PSP but thats an sacrefice I took without even thinking!
So if you are thinking about buying this, dont (think) just buy it! Dr. Y - Sat Dec 24 2005 11:57:34 Hong Kong Time
People haven't realized that part of the bulk with this addition is due to the fact that Datel wanted to create something that is usable to a wide range of consumers. It's easily installed, does not void warranty because there is no need to open the PSP, and cheaper then other options available. Basically the "best bang for the buck" as some would say. As for reasons of why no harddrive, Sony is one of the larger companies that is trying to stop copyright piracy. UMD's are your proof. PS2's had their harddrive slots removed and made slim in order to prevent further harddrive copying pirates. XB DaHarder - Mon Dec 26 2005 07:05:01 Hong Kong Time
I bought one a couple of weeks ago, and find it to work very well, though I wish they'd come up with a better solution for organizing the "flexible Memory Stick™", and dealing with the 'less-than-flush fit' of the MAX 4HDD unit. SMART - Mon Dec 26 2005 14:58:03 Hong Kong Time
OMFG im so smart! what if they made it so that it was like in the shape of a umd so that it would fit in the umd drive then use the cable to connect it to the memstick slot!! f-*-*-k im smart! McFly - Wed Dec 28 2005 01:50:43 Hong Kong Time
This is a great product, but it really comes down to personal preference. My pros and cons of the 4gb Datel Microdrive Vs. the 2gb Memory Stick Duo.
Pros:
- 4gigs + a battery for 50 bucks more than a 2gb stick (hands down the best pro)
- It supports any PSP, and possibly if future firmware is cracked, then it doesn't even matter
- The PSP does cramp almost everyone's hands that I know... the bulkiness is most welcome (sometimes)
Cons:
- It doesn't fit in the Playgear case anymore (I don't know about some of you but I feel much better with my $250.00 investment in a nice snug case (and no... buying some random camera case where it could possibly move around (i.e. it's not ergonomically designed specifically for the unit) is not safe to me)
- From reviews (and the look), it doesn't look completely secure to the PSP. When a memory stick goes into the PSP, the case shuts, and the duo is in there nice and secure. If you have a huge attachment in it, that could possibly damage the port via user use (if you move it, or God forbid you drop it). While playin you could accidently move the big square latched onto it, and not to mention for some who don't always need this huge attachment ont (if you want to put it in the Playgear case and while you're not using it in transit), constantly removing that thing from port could damage the product or the PSP)... debate me if I'm wrong on this because I've only used the 32 stick duo in my PSP 1.5.
- To be fully functional, you have to upgrade to 2.00. I run homebrew all the time, in fact it's the only reason I use my PSP as much as I do. If I have to leave 1.5 to get full movie functionality (because I'd definitely want movies with a 4gb capacity), I'd rather leave this item behind.
In the end, it doesn't come out on top for me. But everyone should pick and choose what they use their PSP for. In my opinion, homebrewers should stay away, but mediaphiles should jump on this quick. Jahmess - Thu Dec 29 2005 01:54:09 Hong Kong Time
Reasons:
Advantages: A lot of Free Space in your PSP
DisAdvantages : Bulky, Not Stylish, Not Portable, a lil bit heavy, who da hell is gonna store movies in ur PSP if u don't know how to format the movies to MP4 (but i do XD)
Summarization: Not recommended for average users of PSP
( I'm not a geek that's why XD) kevin - Sat Dec 31 2005 06:13:39 Hong Kong Time
cant u remove this harddrive and install a mini 20gb harddrive using this datel board? Joe - Thu Jan 5 2006 04:27:16 Hong Kong Time
I agree with others about traveling with the PSP. I have a Dell Axim X50v that I got specifically because it's a PDA, I can browse the web (WiFi and BT), it takes CF and SD/MMC and has VGA. I use it for MP3 and DivX/AVI. I like the larger screen of the PSP and since it's designed as a consumer 'toy' it's going to have many more media-related accessories than my Axim.
Being able to access larger and different media formats will let me take advantage of all the other memory cards I have laying around. And the PSP-hacking community (if Sony doesn't) may be able to come up with drivers for other devices via the MS Pro DUO port (via CF adapters?) or be able get the usb port to support host-mode or USB-OTG which means I could plug my 20GB drive into the PSP. Shane - Sat Jan 7 2006 00:21:23 Hong Kong Time
Lots of comments surrounding portability of the psp here.
It's interesting that many people assume that the way THEY use their PSP is the way everyone else uses it too. Did you ever think that some people are looking for extreme portability (because they make short trips here and there) and others may need more battery power and storage space (my nephew takes the train 10 hours 1 way each week)? Anything that is developed for the PSP which adds more power and storage is a GOOD thing, nobody can argue that. If the price is too high, if it's too bulky or if you just find it plain ugly... don't buy one and state your opinion. Just get off your soap-box about stripping the PSP of it's portability. Let's face it... it's not exactly an ipod nano to begin with. TheMan70 - Sat Jan 7 2006 13:59:29 Hong Kong Time
Didn't you guys here Sonys going to come out with 6GB And 8GB Pro Duo cards YEAH CARDS so no more bulk guess we just have to wait and see Hampa - Sat Feb 4 2006 03:11:35 Hong Kong Time
man i actually dont care about the 4gb and the battery, BUT id really liek the 2 plastic casings they ar in. i mean the 2 black thingys. would be nice for my big hands. so if anyone can get theur hands on 2 hit me up with a mail. dbs - Sat Feb 4 2006 19:59:19 Hong Kong Time
actually Sony is releasing 4gb and 8gb memorystick pro duos.
the price is still unknown though mike - Sun Feb 5 2006 12:23:42 Hong Kong Time
who gives a sh!t about stylishness? do You have the psp because You are ugly and want something to make you look better? or do You play games? strabo - Fri Feb 24 2006 12:17:29 Hong Kong Time
wow people are getting really pissed about this. . . seriously, it only weighs what? 125 grams more? its 4 GB!!! so awesome. . . besides, it feels better and my hands don't cramp anymore figgles - Mon Feb 27 2006 02:14:51 Hong Kong Time
Personally i think its a great idea i get mine tomorrow :-) and i have friends who have it already
and i think it gives the PSP a more ergonomic feel no more sore thums with having to use the annalogue thumb controler. 125g thats gonna kill some ppl (i dont think) i think 125g is a small price to pay for the ammount of storage you get out of it, Its like all the other thinks people complain about Datel arent making you buy their product, If you dont like it the answer is simple DONT BUY IT!!! figgles - Mon Feb 27 2006 02:15:21 Hong Kong Time
Personally i think its a great idea i get mine tomorrow :-) and i have friends who have it already
and i think it gives the PSP a more ergonomic feel no more sore thums with having to use the annalogue thumb controler. 125g thats gonna kill some ppl (i dont think) i think 125g is a small price to pay for the ammount of storage you get out of it, Its like all the other thinks people complain about Datel arent making you buy their product, If you dont like it the answer is simple DONT BUY IT!!! Niglb - Mon Feb 27 2006 08:44:00 Hong Kong Time
Anyone try using the Pmp player with the full rez movies? Would this cut ouf the sync problems people have been having? Thats how I watch anything nowadays on my psp. Better file sizes, and way better quality using the xvid codec at full rez. jtisi - Fri Mar 3 2006 14:51:18 Hong Kong Time
just thought id say it. If you go to walmart you can get a 1g memory stick pro duo w/ memory stick duo adaptor for $75 and a 2g for $125. odis - Thu Mar 9 2006 04:28:14 Hong Kong Time
i heard that psp is going to have 8gb harddrive pgrated65 - Sat Mar 11 2006 11:52:51 Hong Kong Time
HELP! I can't get the Max Media Manager Window to fully display on my Windows XP Notebook computer. I've tried changing resolution, reloading the software, and yes, even reading the instructions. Anyone have a clue? mike D - Tue Mar 14 2006 07:51:44 Hong Kong Time
to high priced when will it come down bman - Sat Mar 18 2006 03:20:33 Hong Kong Time
Ok here is the definitive guide to this product. All you need to read is what I am about to write and thats the final story. I say this because most people like myself read different articles and are lead astray by comments such as "its too bulky" and "it loads slowly" and "movies don't play well on it". Here is my experience...
The HD weighs very little in my hands (attached or detached from the psp) I notice no difference when playing with my psp ( except that it has turned into more of a PS controller - which is nicer than flat hands and crams). As for storage; tell me where you can get a 4GB stick PLUS battery (which helps) for the price of $200? Nowhere... yet - BUt the psp is all about the here and now.
I can load movies, songs emulators homebrew and LEGIT backup ISOS like it's nobodies business. Honestly you may think I work for datel when I say this but, I have had no problems whatsoever with this product and HIGHLY reccomend it to anyone who needs more storage (which we all do) for your psp. I challenge anyone on this message board to say otherwise. If you do accept the duel, I will let all know why you may be having that specific problem and debunk any negativity in regards to the functionality of the 4gb harddrive.
PEACE Oscar Alfredo - Sat Mar 18 2006 11:05:45 Hong Kong Time
quiero saber si hacen envios a mexico,si es que si los hacen me podrian decir cuanto saldria el disco duro ya con el envio en pesos mexicanos esta chida su pagina saludos a toda la banda Chivasfan - Sun Mar 19 2006 14:09:22 Hong Kong Time
How many songs could you put on the 2 gb? shane - Tue Mar 21 2006 10:28:13 Hong Kong Time
its a pretty cool item for the psp but for me to be lugging that thing around would prolly cause carpeltunnelor something LOL but dont worry fans sony is developing a 4 and 8 gig memory st back
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