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Mar-08-06
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| Confuse: well done by kramnik. |
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| ianD: great commentary thanks Ray K!! |
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| itz2000: I hate Caro-Kann, and this game can show you why. |
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Mar-08-06
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| EmperorAtahualpa: <Fritz now wanted to try the line-opening gambit 14...d4!?, but no human player would yet regard such drastic measures as necessary. (It's a mark of how far computer programs have advanced that Fritz makes this dynamic choice.)> Mr. Keene added this remarkable comment after 14.Qd2. This made me wonder: Would there be a possibility that some chess engines are designed to have a positive bias in their evaluations toward line-opening moves such as 14...d4?!, because it is generally known that engines perform best in open positions and relatively poorly in closed positions? |
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Mar-08-06
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| acirce: With all the talk about chess being played out, it is very striking how Kramnik plays a novelty in move 6 (!) in this one of the most important games in his career. |
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Mar-08-06
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| EmperorAtahualpa: This game is beautiful by the way. Some kibitzers around here try to make you believe that Kramnik and Leko are boring and gutless. If that would be true, this game would certainly have to be tedious. But as we all see, that is far from realistic. |
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Mar-08-06
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| EmperorAtahualpa: <With all the talk about chess being played out, it is very striking how Kramnik plays a novelty in move 6 (!) in this one of the most important games in his career.> <acirce> Not only striking, but also daring, if I may add! |
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Mar-08-06
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| Dim Weasel: Great game and nice commentary. |
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| Mar-08-06 |
| Kramnik fan: An authentic masterpiece of Kramnik. Probably he have had better games, but still, the external circunstances shows how great Kramnik is. But I also praise the opponent, GM Leko, because he has shown he is one of the best players in the world (he is leading Linares right know) and only having great opponents you can grow as a player. |
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Mar-08-06
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| alexandrovm: by move 30 white is already better. Leko didn't display his best in this game, the mistake on move 22 started Leko's down espiral that lead to a horrible position to defend. Nice game by Kramnik. |
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| Mar-08-06 |
| Fan of Leko: A fine game by kramnik. I am not sure what Petrosian game the notes refered to but I have seen similar king marches in games by Alekhine and Capablanca. The Caro-Kann was a poor choice here, as I think it is generally unless you are a regular player of that opening. Compare the result to the last game of Deep Blue vs. Kasparov. |
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Mar-08-06
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| Honza Cervenka: <Fan of Leko> See Petrosian vs Botvinnik, 1963 |
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Mar-08-06
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| notyetagm: From GM Keene's notes:
< Fritz now wanted to try the line-opening gambit
14...d4!?, but no human player would yet regard such drastic
measures as necessary.>
Rather, isn't 14 ... d4!? a <square clearance> sacrifice, to gain access to the d5-square for the Black knights? |
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Mar-08-06
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| kevin86: A sparkling game! White defends his title with gusto and fire! More like he took the title from the hands of its potential burglar. |
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Mar-08-06
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| cu8sfan: I never knew the GotD was themed too. Yesterday we had Karpov vs Kasparov, 1985 so the theme of the week seems to be "Decisive World Championship Games". Ah, what a great site this is! |
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| Mar-08-06 |
| dakgootje: Seems like a nice game, with excellent annotation by mr Keene, someone mind if i dont read all the 23 pages full of comments? =p |
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Mar-08-06
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| notyetagm: <Kramnik fan: ... But I also praise the opponent, GM Leko, because he has shown he is one of the best players in the world > This is a horribly played game by Leko. He just sits back and lets Kramnik have his way with him. |
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| Mar-08-06 |
| apawnandafool: <anyone..>
Does anyone know of a Chessgames' games collection of annotated Chessgames' chess games like this one? |
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| Mar-08-06 |
| Nezhmetdinov: This is comparable to the sudden eruption of white's game in Vladimir Kramnik vs Anatoli Karpov
It (cat.19), Dos Hermanas (Spain) 1997 · English (A17) - if anything the results are even more spectacular here. How do you make hyperlinks to other games btw? |
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Mar-08-06
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| blingice: Here's some Chessmaster analysis on the last few moves of the game: Chessmaster recommends Ra1 for black's thirty sixth, but the Rc3 move dropped him badly. Score: 0.74 36...Ra1 37.Nxb7+ Bxb7 38.Rxb7 Rg1+ 39.Kf3 Rf1+ 40.Kg3 Rg1+ 41.Kh4 a5 42.Ra7 Rb1 43.f5 exf5 44.Rxa5 Rxb6 45.Rxd5+ Ke7 And the move after:
Score: 2.38 37.f5 Rd1 38.f6 Rxd4+ 39.Kg5 Rd1 40.f7 Ke7 41.Rg8 Rg1+ 42.Kh4 Rf1 43.Re8+ Kd7 44.f8=Q Rxf8 45.Rxf8 Bam.
Was he time pressured? It's not a Leko-ish thing to do to make a move that loses nearly two pawns in position. An even more shocking drop was in move 37. Here's Chessmaster's recommendation: Score: 2.79 37...Rd1 38.f6 Rxd4+ 39.Kg5 Rd1 40.f7 Rg1+ 41.Kh4 Rh1+ 42.Kg4 Rf1 43.Rg8+ Kd7 44.f8=Q Rxf8 45.Rxf8 Not great, but it is still somewhat CLOSE to drawable. After 37, Chessmaster is shocked:
Score: 8.61 38.Kg5 exf5 39.Kf6 Rg4 40.Rc7 Bd7 41.Nxb7+ Ke8 42.Nd6+ Kf8 43.b7 Be8 44.b8=Q And the annotation Chessmaster generated with it (essentially the same, but some other notes too): <Danger! Leads to 38.Kg5 exf5 39.Kf6 Rg4 40.Rc7 Bd7 41.Nxb7+ Ke8 42.Nd6+ Kf8 43.b7 Be8 44.b8=Q. Much better is Rd1, leading to 38.f6 Rxd4+ 39.Kg5 Rd1 40.f7 Rg1+ 41.Kh4 Rh1+ 42.Kg4 Rf1 43.Rg8+ Kd7 44.f8=Q Rxf8 45.Rxf8. This was black's key blunder.> Yes, quite un-Leko-ish indeed, considering he takes 10 minutes a move. |
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Mar-08-06
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| Knight13: All the marbles have fallen off... |
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Mar-09-06
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| alexandrovm: < ...The Caro-Kann was a poor choice here, as I think it is generally unless you are a regular player of that opening. > If I'm not mistaken one of Leko's speciality is the Caro-Kann... |
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| Apr-14-06 |
| IMDONE4: great game by Kramnik, although I am a fan of Leko's and would've liked to see him become the champion. Keene gives a great annotation. |
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| Apr-14-06 |
| IMDONE4: I have no clue as to why the move Kd8. It seems somewhat useless in the position, and rather looks like a waste of a move. |
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| Apr-14-06 |
| euripides: The point of 22...Kd8 is presumably to stop White getting his rook to c7 after b5. However, Kramnik in NIC agrees with <IMDONE> the move is bad: 'This is, so to speak,the natural reaction of a tired organism, but objectively it may be the decisive mistake'. He thinks 22...Bxa4 too risky and recommends 22...Ke7. |
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