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ccmcacollister

3/22/2008
06:28:45

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Subject: The Social Stigma of Playing Chess ...?!?

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I was talking to someone today, and thought maybe it makes a thread topic. That is ... how is the Chess activity in your area? Do you have a club? Have tourneys? Staying active? Let me know how the Chess activity is for you ...

Have you been playing any tournaments or clubbing around at all this year? I ENVY players in the Netherlands much, as I hear they have a CLUB in nearly every good sized city there. And even play intra-club matches for them! How great. A Chess Mecca it seems.

[Where I live; I had thought things were pretty dead around here, but on another site i saw a Nebraska player saying he played in a tourney just in the last couple or few months. Maybe there IS more going on that I knew of. Seems I must renew the old USCF membership and see what is what, sometime here. Unless maybe someone can tell me ... what is going on around Here?]

I've GOT to find a club at least ... or a coffeehouse or such where people are meeting to play ... er that they have not been kicked out of yet. THAT seems to be a problem here. EG, often some of the players don't want to pay for coffee or such from a business "site" ... or got too rowdy, or took up too many tables, etc.
One time at a convenience store ... I had to buy and eat FOUR microwave dinners,
so they would let us stay and play ... while eating. :)

Usually Donut shops are pretty cool, but Winchells went out of nighttime business, where we would play after the Church-club hours, where we played on West Center Street in Omaha. Till the Key man left the door unlocked once too often and got booted. Sigh.

A funny one ... we even managed to get kicked out of a nighttime coffeeshop that enjoys catering to gay patrons just fine. But we got sac'd for taking too many tables :(
Or maybe for not being gay?! Anyway ... it seems Chessplayers are pretty much on the bottom of the social ladder ~!! haha

Bringing up the Question: DO YOU face THE STIGMA of being a Chessplayer ?! Or is it totally cool where you are? How do you DEAL with it, if you find you and your friends are being deprived of a respected place in society?

}8-D

Well hope to find something.


chessnovice

3/22/2008
15:50:24

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I haven't met anyone locally that plays, but I also haven't visited the downtown area very much. I'm sure that if I rolled out my chess board and set up open opposition, I'd get many takers.

I found that the nerdy stigma of chess was null by the time I was in college, and people were able to acknowledge that they wish they knew how to play, themselves.


pgroenborg

3/22/2008
16:22:44

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Mecca in decline

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I think the culture in Europe for playing in clubs has been very strong historically. I live in Denmark and here maybe ten 15 yrs back there were 10.000 players out of a pop. of 5 mill. Now there is about half of that, less than 5.000 clubbers.

The town I'm in has a pop. of about 150.000 and there are many clubs here to choose from, actually it's sort of the capital of chess in Denmark. Of course the real one is Copenhagen.

So the talk now is how to turn around the decline in members of the union that organises the clubs (you are automatically a member of the union when you join a registered club).

Many clubs are closing down these years, it's sad really.
But chess in clubs is still strong in Denmark and like you said about Holland, there is a great deal going on in the clubs and between them: Team chess (National and regional) and other interclub tourneys.
A few years back my club Skakklubben af 1968 (www.sk1968.dk) had 7 teams of 8 players, this season we had only 4.

We play in a part of the university, where we rent the room, really cool, especially since for the postanalysis etc. we are able to choose from an adjacent room - or the bar downstairs!


cascadejames

3/23/2008
20:50:31

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Chess in Portland

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Craig, Some US cities are not so bad. Portland Oregon has a small but active chess club with a
very long history. See
www.pdxchess.com
There are small tournaments and a weekly casual chess night. I am a member, but have not been
active. Seattle has a club, and I think most larger cities in the Pacific NW have a club of some
kind.

Chuckling, my grandfather would have said that if you and your friends are being thrown out of
coffee houses you either need to get classier friends or spend your time in classier places. :-) I
doubt if it is a problem directly related to chess. Non-chess players that I know tend to have the
misconception that chess players are all intellectual scholars. But I can see a business owner
being peeved if your friends are discouraging paying customers.


ionadowman

3/24/2008
00:31:29

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In this idyllic...

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... South Sea archipelago of New Zealand, in particular, the City of Christchurch, pop. circa 300,000 there are, I think, 2 clubs: The Christchurch C.C. and the Canterbury C.C. I know where one of them is located, having visited there a two or three times in 1988; the other I don't know about.
But the Christchurch Square has a giant chessboard (the king stands maybe 3 foot high - about 0.9 metre) which gets frequent use. I used to hang out there quite a bit in 1989-90, and occasionally since.
Here's a game from the heady days of playing in the sunshine with a giant chess set:
White: N.N. Black: Self (c.1992; Wilkes-Barre)
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc4
5.Bxf7+ Ke7 6.Bb3 Rf8 7.0-0 h6 8.Nf3 d6
9.d3?! (9.h3!) 9...Bg4 10.Be3 Nd4 11.Bxd4 Bxd4 12.c3 Bb6
13.Nbd2 Qd7 14.Qc2 Rae8 15.h3? (This really is a hard luck pawn!)
15...Bxh3 16.gxh3 Qxh3
17.Nh2 Ng4 18.Nxg4 Qxg4+ 19.Kh1 Qh3+ 20.Kg1 Rf5
21.Qd1 Qg3+ 22.Kh1 Rh4#.
Not exactly Holland or Denmark, though...
New Zealand has a few IMs but only one GM - and he had to move to England to get the necessary experience.


wschmidt

3/24/2008
11:36:31

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The Denver area has a few active clubs...

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Just this year I started going to the regular Tuesday night sessions of the Denver Chess Club. Each month starts a new rated tournament - four or five 90 minute games over the course of the month. 20-30 folks show up on any given night.
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Craig, your coffeehouse memories are very similar to mine from several years ago in St. Louis. A group of about 6-8 of us his various Wendy's, donut shops, libraries, etc. one night a week until we were banned and had to move on. It didn't help that one of our crew was the most anti-authoritarian, anti-social crackpot in mid-America. I was at his house one night to play chess and he ended the evening holding a machete to my throat demanding that I acknowledge him as my guru. Needless to say, our relationship ended at that point. I know he's still around though, hasn't been institutionalized yet.

ws


ccmcacollister

3/24/2008
21:59:00

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haha ...

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Good stuff above. Good advice cj :)

WS ... I'm still your Guru, right! yahahahaha ....
Sorry couldnt resist. That is significantly worse that being Kinged in the head~!

Maybe I should be living in Denmark !? I recently heard it called the best place on earth to live.

Or NZ? Sounds good with the big set.


kansaspatzer

3/24/2008
22:53:30

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In Kansas City, there are two clubs. One is an informal one in a restaurant the nightlife district. The mayor of Kansas City actually shows up and plays there, and it's the home club of an IM. The one I go too more often is an actual brick and mortar club with it's own building, but it's fallen victim to chess politics because the owner accused a few leading players of cheating about a year ago, and most of its population has fallen.

Omaha has a really active chess scene, and I am actually considering moving up there after I graduate for that reason. I like to go there for tournaments.

In the college town where I am, there's a downtown club that's really informal. About a year ago, one of the star basketball players from the college came and played with us. He's in the NBA now though. Stuff like that really dispels the "nerd" stereotype.


steverand67

3/29/2008
16:29:15

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Kansas City Missouri...

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3 clubs actually if you count the one in Independence (about a 30 minute drive) from midtown Kansas City. I think that one has a couple IM's too...but I don't know much about since I've never been there.

Regarding the social stigma of playing chess I can only speak from my own experience in the US, but I think that the "nerd" stereotype kansaspatzer mentioned is annoyingly prevalent. I've met a lot of people who fit that stereotype, but I've also met a lot of people who don't.

I think chess is so stereotyped in the US because of the lack of national attention it gets. Relatively marginalized quasi-sports like bowling, poker, pool (and even the absurdity that is NASCAR) appear on national television frequently, but to my knowledge chess is limited to a 1/4 page column in the sunday edition of the New York Times.

To make chess more popular in the US, the nation probably needs another iconic figure like RJF. Nakamura and other americans are great chess players, but they've yet to become national heroes like Fischer was (and it's hard to see how they'll become such heroes without another "Cold War-esque" event).

Perhaps televising chess games with lots of scantily-clad cheerleaders celebrating after strong moves would attract more attention? :-)


buddie

3/30/2008
09:56:01

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The stigma of Chess

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There must be a stigma attached to playing Chess ...

I used to play for a club which met in a Church hall, for several years.
On the Church's website they listed some of the activities the hall was used for.
The self-help group for people trying to recover from drug addiction was mentioned, the Chess club wasn't.


lighttotheright

3/31/2008
06:34:05

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Although RJF initially was a boon to the popularity of chess, his absurd statements about America and frankly his strange behavior in his later years in life may have reinforced the 'nerd' perception. RJF only remained a hero within inner circles of chess and to those considered chess fanatics. To much of the nation, he became just a very talented 'nut'. Parents might not openly admit it, but many were not inclined to actively help their children to excel in a game that that 'nut' played. Much of the U.S. became ambivalent concerning chess, and RJR's later life was not an example that most people wanted to follow. How many Americans really want to have a life in obscure seclusion? ...not many.

IMHO, We do not need another RJF. Instead, we need another Paul Morphy. Morphy's example was truly inspiring. Yet, his example is currently too separated from us psychologically because it was too long ago. The bottom line is that we need a current chess hero without so many character flaws.


ccmcacollister

4/01/2008
11:10:07

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lighttotheright

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I get what you are saying re Morphy, & having a Chess hero here. And I am also a Morphy fan. But perhaps we need another Pillsbury or Marshall? I believe that RJF WAS another Morphy, as I am pretty certain that Morphy ended life in a sanitarium? If I am wrong on that particular, I am certain that he did at least have "issues" of such a nature. And another aspect of to tarnish the hero image there, his disenchantment with the game in his later years, after he stopped playing altogether in the opinion that Chess was not a fitting avocation for a real Gentleman. And that rather his energies
should all be going to his career as an attorney. (This view may have been fostered by his family!? It's been decades since I read it. )


ccmcacollister

4/01/2008
11:17:16

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buddie ...

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ha, I hear you on that one. Well on the bright side, at least we chessplayers were placed beneath RECOVERING Drug Addicts.
Perhaps we are simply considered to be Hopelessly Addicted to the game ?! :))


lighttotheright

4/02/2008
00:05:18

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ccm you are mistaken about Morphy. I don't know where you got the sanitarium story but it is false.

From wiki:

"On the afternoon of July 10, 1884, Morphy was found dead in his bathtub at the age of forty-seven. According to the autopsy, Morphy had suffered a stroke brought on by entering cold water after a long walk in the midday heat. The Morphy mansion, sold by the family in 1891, is today the site of Brennan's, a famous New Orleans restaurant."

Morphy never lived in self imposed seclusion as RJF did. However he did give up chess to pursue his law career. He didn't want to play anymore because it was no longer a challenge. He was too far above any other chess player of his era. He was the first modern chess player. It took another 25 years before anyone in the chess world could have possibly given him a challenge. It is small wonder that he gave up chess. He was bored with it. Giving up chess in such a situation is no cause to question his sanity.

The issues he had were related to his inability to have a successful law career for two reasons. 1st--He was a wealthy Southerner that did not support secession or the Confederates during the Civil War. Locals were not inclined to do business with him because of that fact, which was widely known. 2nd--anytime anybody came into his law office, they would only talk about chess instead of doing business with him. His reaction was quite natural, but anyone on the other end of the conversation might easily claim that the guy must be crazy. He was not.


ccmcacollister

4/02/2008
08:10:57

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lighttotheright ...

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It seems we've seen two very different sources. I have no reason to believe one over the other. Except that I can say I have seen one portion, the reason he quit, repeated many times
1) That it was not a proper pursuit, only an unimportant game and
2) Having chased a match for WC that never developed.

Of course the trouble with that is, there is no way to know, even with that portion, that the Many times something is seen did not all stem from the First one to say it. Like a bad variation played over and over again. Or Goebbels, 'repeat it often enough until they believe it'.
Unfortunately, I wasn't there.


ccmcacollister

4/02/2008
13:53:07

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PS// But ...

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I aim to find out. As much as I can; so I started a Morphy thread :)

ccmcacollister

5/31/2008
22:55:14

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Some additional info ...

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I was reading some more just yesterday and found out that Pillsbury is supposed to have had a suicide attempt near the end of his life, which you probably know was shortened by uncured Syphillis, which of course when untreated by antibiotics (which were not yet "invented" then ) is also known to cause mental deterioration & even 'madness'. What a tragic loss of a great mind and talent. You may have heard that Pillsbury made his tournament debut as an unknown who finished in first place at Hastings, ahead of Lasker and the other luminaries of that day. In addition, he at one time held the record for blindfold Chess games, which he would not only play Chess during, but also would play Whist and blindfold Checkers at the same time, endeavoring to maximize the impressive showmanship of the feat. And indeed he did! It was surprising to me to see, several weeks ago, the record of Pillsbury vs Frank J. Marshall ... which favored Marshall heavily. So I have to wonder how many of those games may have been played while Pillsbury was still in top form, and how many may have been during his decline into illness. What a great player, in any case, and great tragedy to have had such a short & brilliant career, and life.
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Some additional info on Morphy: again just yesterday I read an article which again suggested that Morphy, if not in some phase of nutsy to crazy .., was apparently at least getting somewhat eccentric in his post-Chess life, mentioning a peculiar habit of having a required shoe arrangement; to be placed in the middle of the room, paired in semi-circular formation.
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From there it went onto Rubinstein, who it seems was quite mad by the end. And I have heard such in other places as well. Such as apparently preoccupied with non-existant flies bothering him. etc.
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The most interesting part of the article tho, was a quote from one of the British Grandmaster. Leonard Barden, I believe, who said something such as "Chess does not cause madness, it keeps some madmen who play it sane". Not precise quote there, but conveys the essence I believe.
\*****
}8-)


tag1153

6/01/2008
01:08:35

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Chess in Dixie

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I live in Birmingham, AL (and yes, we DO love the governor *oooooh, oooooh, oooooh*). OTB chess in this state absolutely sucks. I'm posting this kinda huge list from the USCF stats to illustrate my point. Only ONE active Master over the last year. And this list DOES count scholastics. Look at the number of active players rated higher than 1000. Pitiful. It's 0230 Sunday as I write this.....the reason I point that out is that I just got home from Nashville, TN. Whyyyy you may ask? I simply wanted some rated OTB this weekend. I had to travel 200 miles. And this is NORMAL. It is completely fair to say that I am in the top three of activity in this state (2 years OTB play, 58 or 59 tournaments). If you look at my tournament history (12621562) you will notice that something like HALF of these tourneys took place in Georgia or Tennessee. We have ONE very active TD (God bless you Caesar), and our state organization is shambles one day and a joke the next. And here is the thing that REALLY bites my you know what - you would THINK that Birmingham would have the largest proportion of my states' players.....nothing could be further from the truth. There is a decent number of active players in Huntsville, but Mobile, Montgomery, Tuscaloosa, Dothan, and yes, Birmingham (listed last for good reason) have dismal numbers. It's just sad. Oh, and that silver lining you always hear about? I went 3/5 in Nashville, split first in my section and pocketed $75. Contrast that with the $110 I spent on gas and food and the 12-15 ratings points I lost. I'm rambling because I'm loaded, and I think you understand why.......check this out:
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USCF Home Top Players by State Results

State Ratings List for AL
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Published Rating Date
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125 12549039 2008-12-31 NATHANIEL P HUTCHINSON 1300 2007-07-01
126 12860260 2009-02-28 HANNAH M HELLWIG 1297 2008-06-01
127 12886949 2009-09-30 RONNIE J BERGLUND 1296 2007-11-01
128 12871986 2007-07-31 JEFFREY EDWARD BABINE 1294 2008-03-01
129 12517121 2008-05-31 JEROME HOWELL 1292 2007-11-01
130 13091562 2006-02-28 ROBERT E CLEMMONS 1289 2007-07-01
131 13601903 2009-01-31 NEIL DIETSCH 1289 2008-06-01
132 12952813 2008-09-30 TUSHAR RAMESH 1288 2008-05-01
133 13407557 2009-03-31 WAYMON BENIFIELD 1285 2008-06-01
134 13203914 2006-06-30 DANIEL L MARSHALL 1261 2007-07-01
135 12899804 2010-09-30 ALEX P CHEN 1253 2008-06-01
136 12419880 2007-07-31 CARLOS T MATOS 1252 2007-09-01
137 13399315 2008-03-31 ROBERT ANTHONY SLIWOWSKI 1251 2007-10-01
138 12864269 2009-11-30 ADRIAN J MAJERLE 1251 2007-12-01
139 12863286 2009-03-31 DENNIS S DERGUNOV 1249 2008-06-01
140 12915652 2008-07-31 DRAYTON M THOMAS 1246 2007-07-01
141 12829822 2008-02-29 KYLE D JULIAN 1237 2007-07-01
142 13727616 2011-06-30 BALAGEE GOVINDAN 1236 2008-05-01
143 12532116 2006-11-30 JAMES ROGER KERNODLE 1232 2007-07-01
144 12899709 2009-01-31 TRIP A RICHERT 1230 2008-06-01
145 12808659 2009-08-31 RANDALL D TEW 1226 2008-04-01
146 12930096 2011-03-31 CHARLES LI 1222 2008-06-01
147 13452120 2009-05-31 PAMELA ALICIA AJOLOKO 1220 2007-07-01
148 12526224 2009-01-31 ROBERT M RIEVES 1217 2008-06-01
149 12786516 2008-03-31 WILLIAM GLENN MOUNT 1210 2007-08-01
150 12909030 2009-05-31 CASEY MERRILL 1200 2008-03-01
151 12858688 2010-02-28 KAYVON DELDAR 1199 2008-06-01
152 12875999 2008-04-30 KARTHIK SOLA 1194 2007-07-01
153 12813118 2011-04-30 TEMPLE PRICE 1192 2008-06-01
154 13723058 2009-05-31 JAMES E GUNN 1181 2008-05-01
155 13521103 2007-10-31 ADAM JT KIM 1169 2007-12-01
156 13601808 2011-01-31 CLAIRE CHEN 1167 2008-06-01
157 12669055 2009-02-28 ADAM TOWNES 1166 2008-06-01
158 13164141 2009-01-31 MICHAEL K TRAN 1162 2008-05-01
159 12808912 2008-05-31 NATHON B BROWN 1156 2007-11-01
160 12629465 2011-01-31 EDWARD J ADLER 1154 2008-03-01
161 13680877 2009-04-30 DAVID JACOB ROBINETTE 1153 2008-06-01
162 12894821 2009-07-31 JESSE WILLIAMS 1151 2008-01-01
163 13590291 2008-12-31 LESLIE A WHIDDON 1149 2008-02-01
164 13790542 2008-10-31 BRANT THOMASON 1145 2008-06-01
165 13017292 2008-09-30 DON HALIMUNANDA 1136 2008-06-01
166 13407578 2008-12-31 RONNIE W COOK 1136 2008-06-01
167 12844840 2007-04-30 BLAKE NATHAN SENN 1119 2008-06-01
168 13888356 2009-02-28 KYLE HUMPHREY 1111 2008-06-01
169 12652866 2006-04-30 STEPHEN G WEBB 1098 2007-07-01
170 13729200 2008-06-30 WENDALL WHITAKER 1088 2008-05-01
171 13727622 2008-06-30 DAVID A HOWIE 1080 2008-04-01
172 13484991 2008-08-31 CHESLEY R JOHNSON 1075 2008-03-01
173 13347981 2009-01-31 MICHAEL JEFFREY COOPER 1071 2008-05-01
174 13164114 2010-04-30 BENJAMIN MILES GOODMAN 1068 2007-08-01
175 13910791 2009-02-28 BUKA,JOHN ANWAH JR LL 1067 2008-06-01
176 12895219 2008-12-31 A V WHITE 1058 2008-03-01
177 12935691 2008-09-30 MARK JAMES REUTER 1057 2008-06-01
178 13677978 2010-03-31 ZHUOWEI XU 1052 2008-06-01
179 13407500 2009-03-31 PHILIP R WANG 1050 2008-06-01
180 12935676 2009-03-31 SCOTT CHARLES BOZEMAN 1046 2008-06-01
181 12935640 2004-03-31 NASHIA MUNA 1030 2008-03-01
182 12554495 2009-01-31 PAUL L EVANS 1029 2008-04-01
183 13232870 2008-12-31 ELORA RENEE HOLLAND 1015 2008-06-01
184 12931739 2010-01-31 JACOB WILLIAM BRYAN 1010 2008-06-01
185 12904864 2006-08-31 XINKE GUO-XUE 1008 2007-07-01
186 12843430 2008-12-31 WILLIAM DONALD HARVEY 1007 2008-03-01
187 13137031 2008-09-30 BIJAN JAMSHIDI 1005 2008-06-01
188 12562109 2008-02-29 JOHN PHILIP NORTON 1003 2008-04-01
189 12936147 2008-04-30 NASIHA MUNA 1000 2007-09-01
190 12925482 2008-08-31 JOHN T MCGRAW 1000 2008-05-01
191 13444162 2010-04-30 VIKHRAM BALAGEE 1000 2008-06-01
192 13456955 2009-05-31 MATT ADAMS 998 2008-04-01
193 13646232 2009-02-28 CHRISTIAN ALEXANDER KNIGHT 998 2008-06-01
194 13526466 2008-11-30 HAROLD MC DONALD 985 2008-06-01
195 13778215 2008-10-31 TRISTEN KOZINSKI 982 2008-01-01
196 13407604 2009-03-31 MICHAEL MILLER 974 2008-06-01
197 13440441 2007-04-30 MR. WILLIAM LAWRENCE WRIGHT 971 2007-07-01
198 13570680 2008-11-30 CHANDA Y SHAW 969 2008-06-01
199 13407610 2009-03-31 CAMERON O'NEIL PAYNE 966 2008-06-01
200 13718812 2010-05-31 CAMERON LOUIS CONNER 962 2008-01-01

PS - that's me at 94. Also, an interesting footnote - IM Stuart Rachels (2600+) is from Birmingham. He achieved 2 GM norms and held Kasparov to a draw. Naturally, he quit playing chess and now is into tourney contract bridge.




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