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US escalating covert ops against Iran

U.S. congressional leaders agreed late last year to President George W. Bush's funding request for a major escalation of covert operations against Iran aimed at destabilizing its leadership, according to a report in The New Yorker magazine published online on Sunday.

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Well this is getting to be old news. I kind of think that the neocons use this Iran thing as a way to keep focus off their failures in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the economy.

If the US or Israel do attack Iran, all I can say is go Iran, you have my full support.

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Well this is getting to be old news. I kind of think that the neocons use this Iran thing as a way to keep focus off their failures in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the economy.
If the US or Israel do attack Iran, all I can say is go Iran, you have my full support.
That and 2 bucks will get you a cup of coffee. I'm glad the US pulled out of subic and clark.

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expatincebu wrote:
Well this is getting to be old news. I kind of think that the neocons use this Iran thing as a way to keep focus off their failures in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the economy.
If the US or Israel do attack Iran, all I can say is go Iran, you have my full support.
I agree.
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Ron Paul said it best..we should quit meddling in other countries affairs.
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Hey, I pulled the handle and got three LIBERAL TURDS on the slot machine...

Where's my prize?
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Hey, I pulled the handle and got three LIBERAL TURDS on the slot machine...
Where's my prize?
...NICELY DONE!

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Ron Paul said it best..we should quit meddling in other countries affairs.
Now they will tell that:

-World is in peril from Iran
-They have weapons of mass destruction
-They are all mad Muslims
-preamptive strike is the best policy
-and any other crap we are hearing from neocons every day

And then they say they are the peace loving people with a M 16 in their hands getting ready for a new attack.

ZEH
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expatincebu wrote:
Well this is getting to be old news. I kind of think that the neocons use this Iran thing as a way to keep focus off their failures in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the economy.
If the US or Israel do attack Iran, all I can say is go Iran, you have my full support.
If you are planning to destroy any countries you destroy own country.
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The truth is Iran is a terrorist state and a threat to its neighbors.

Because of all the Cheney, Rummy and Dummy Bush mistakes in Iraq and Afghanistan our military is stretched to thin stuck in a quagmire.

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Bush Took His Eyes Off Al Qaeda
Army War College / Bounding Global War Dec/ 2003
http://tinyurl.com/8m88a
http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil...

BUSH LOST TWO WARS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN WITH THE BEST MILITARY ON EARTH:

BUSH WASTED 4 YEARS FIGHTING IRAQIS NOT FIGHTING AL QAEDA :
Army War College / American Strategy After 9/11/01
http://tinyurl.com/dnrgd
http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil...

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THESE THREE STOOGES LOST THE HEARTS & MINDS OF THE WHOLE MIDDLE EAST

General Sanchez: US will not win in Iraq
Sanchez, former U.S. commander in Iraq, calls war 'a nightmare with no end in sight'/ October 13, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2qobka
ARLINGTON, Va.– The former top commander of U.S. troops in Iraq slammed the handling of the war and gave a bleak assessment of the current situation in Iraq.
“There is no question that America is living a nightmare with no end in sight,” retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez told a convention of military journalists on Friday.
Sanchez commanded U.S. troops in Iraq from June 2003 to July 2004. His controversial tenure saw the capture of Saddam Hussein and the handover of sovereignty to the Iraqi government, but also the rise of the insurgency and the Abu Ghraib prison scandal.
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp...

HALLIBURTON CHENEY, OLD MAN RUMMY AND DUMMY BUSH LOST TWO WARS IN AFGHANISTAN & IRAQ WITH THE BEST MILITARY ON EARTH!!!

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The Iraq Study Group Report
James A. Baker, III, and Lee H. Hamilton, Co-Chairs
Lawrence S. Eagleburger, Vernon E. Jordan, Jr., Edwin Meese III,
Sandra Day O’Connor, Leon E. Panetta, William J. Perry, Charles S. Robb,
Alan K. Simpson
http://www.usip.org/isg/iraq_study_group_repo...

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The Myth of an al Qaeda Takeover of Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/287t4u / January 28, 2007

Despite such scare mongering, it is highly improbable that al Qaeda could use Iraq as the kind of safe haven it enjoyed in Afghanistan. There, the organization had the protection of an entrenched, friendly government, which it will not have in Iraq. Al Qaeda also had a much larger force in Afghanistan -- an estimated 18,000 fighters. Even the U.S. government concedes that there are fewer than 2,000 al Qaeda fighters in Iraq, and the Iraq Study Group put the figure at only 1,300.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php...
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Does anyone remember Admiral William Fallon ???

US generals ‘will quit’ if Bush orders Iran attack
February 25, 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/2hxf7v
SOME of America’s most senior military commanders are prepared to resign if the White House orders a military strike against Iran, according to highly placed defence and intelligence sources.
Tension in the Gulf region has raised fears that an attack on Iran is becoming increasingly likely before President George Bush leaves office. The Sunday Times has learnt that up to five generals and admirals are willing to resign rather than approve what they consider would be a reckless attack.
“There are four or five generals and admirals we know of who would resign if Bush ordered an attack on Iran,” a source with close ties to British intelligence said.“There is simply no stomach for it in the Pentagon, and a lot of people question whether such an attack would be effective or even possible.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/i...
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Generals Speak Out Against Rumsfeld
DoD Determines US Foreign Policy, PERIOD!!! Congress is SUPERFLUOUS!!! The only thing to FEAR, is NOT ENOUGH FEAR. Rummy trashed 10 years of war planning.

"We went to war with a flawed plan that didn't account for the hard work to build the peace after we took down the regime. We also served under a secretary of defense who didn't understand leadership, who was abusive, who was arrogant, who didn't build a strong team."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. John Batiste.

"My sincere view is that the commitment of our forces to this fight was done with a casualness and swagger that are the special province of those who have never had to execute these missions -- or bury the results."
-- Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold.

"They only need the military advice when it satisfies their agenda. I think that's a mistake, and that's why I think he should resign."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. John Riggs.

"We grow up in a culture where accountability, learning to accept responsibility, admitting mistakes and learning from them was critical to us. When we don't see that happening it worries us. Poor military judgment has been used throughout this mission."
-- Retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, former chief of U.S. Central Command.

"I really believe that we need a new secretary of defense because Secretary Rumsfeld carries way too much baggage with him.... I think we need senior military leaders who understand the principles of war and apply them ruthlessly, and when the time comes, they need to call it like it is."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack.

"He has shown himself incompetent strategically, operationally and tactically, and is far more than anyone responsible for what has happened to our important mission in Iraq.... Mr. Rumsfeld must step down."
-- Retired Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton.

Perfect security is Not attainable at any price!!!
STAR WARS & other MISSILE DEFENSE for a Trillion Dollars may stop 8 atomic war heads, but 2 will still hit their mark.

What can be achieved besides mutually assured destruction, is BANKRUPTING the US TREASURY.

-- Retired Army General Wesley K. Clark, former Supreme Allied Commander Europe. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!
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expatincebu wrote:
Well this is getting to be old news. I kind of think that the neocons use this Iran thing as a way to keep focus off their failures in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the economy.
If the US or Israel do attack Iran, all I can say is go Iran, you have my full support.
Speak for yorself.

Another lefty-lib supporting a society that stones women to death and routinely clubs them for showing an ankle.

Power to the Lefty -Libs.
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It is sick plan of conquer of the world by US ruthless, degenerated, depraved psychoes, who rule there.
It is clear who burn this Mosque in Iran - Bush and his US friends.

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Speak for yorself.
Another lefty-lib supporting a society that stones women to death and routinely clubs them for showing an ankle.
Power to the Lefty -Libs.
Say againg about which country are we talking now?

Maybe Saudi Arabia? Sorry I lost track. Kuwait maybe? Now Iraq?

Do not be a hipocrate! If you are fighting for human wrights do it everywhere otherwise, shut the hell up!
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it is nice to see that the rest of the world is highly jelious of the United States!!! they still can't get over that it took America to bail them out and to fight there battles for them!!!!

What a bunch of ungrateful idiots you all are & how weak you are - you think that appeasing and running away like cowards will stop these muslim-obama freindly terrorists!!! What a HUGE laugh that is!!! STAND UP FOR YOURSELVES AND SHOW SOME COURAGE LIKE BUSH & THE UNITED STATES!!! Instead of acting like cowards & weaklings!!!!!!

It is sad enough to see the cowards of our own liberal obama-muslim friendly democraps - these cowards like obama & clinton even want to take away our rights to have guns & freedom of speech!
the modern democrap party smells of the stench of communism & maxist elitism!!!!!

nobama in 2008!
God d*mn the rest of the world for being cowards!
and God Bless the United States of America!

the U.S. is the worlds last hope against muslims & the greatest country ever in the history of the world! We ain't listening to weaklings like you or like appeasers obama, pelosi, and murtha who only want to weaken America's mighty military!!!
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Now they will tell that:
-World is in peril from Iran
-They have weapons of mass destruction
-They are all mad Muslims
-preamptive strike is the best policy
-and any other crap we are hearing from neocons every day
And then they say they are the peace loving people with a M 16 in their hands getting ready for a new attack.
ZEH
For some strange reason younger people tend to believe the GOP is full of race baiting, neo-con war mongers. This could be further from the truth. Original conservatives were more libertarian leaning on social issues and were vehemently anti-war. The Barry Goldwarter republicans are the ones who helped Ronald Reagan get elected. That is until the GOP was hijacked by newt gingrich and his neo-cons; they ARE NOT the true old-school conservative types.

Don't let them fool you!

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The beauty of democracy:

Covert operations, terrorism, vandalism, kidnapping.... Very happy to see the real Truth behind the deceptive slogan that is Democracy.
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ps..Vote for McAmnesty the liberal and welcome open borders. Vote for socialist Oblaba and welcome the ushering in of communism.

What a friggin choice! Time to vote for Barr or some other 3rd party. We'll see you again in 2012!
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We ain't listening to weaklings like you or like appeasers obama, pelosi, and murtha who only want to weaken America's mighty military!!!
It's nice to see you are taking your daily dose of neo-con propaganda like a nice little sheep.
Don't forget the kool aid with the dose of pill popping boozer to the stars Rush Laughbag limbaugh and high school dropout Sean Hannity. oh..and Kristol, wolfowitz and the other Jewtrolled msm media spin pundits.
ps..tighten the aluminum foil cap war monger.
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Say againg about which country are we talking now?
Maybe Saudi Arabia? Sorry I lost track. Kuwait maybe? Now Iraq?
Do not be a hipocrate! If you are fighting for human wrights do it everywhere otherwise, shut the hell up!
Hey I don't like any of them but for the sake of PC and Kumbaya it's not nice to mention that.

Of course the Dem energy policy will just make them richer and more powerfull.
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