How should the US deal with Illegal Immigration?

Become a citizen by...

(ALL CITIZENS WILL HAVE TO PAY A FINE FOR THEIR ILLEGAL ENTRY)
Joining the army or
Completing 200 hours of community service for five years or
Having a son/daughter who is on the high honor roll for at least three out of four years.

Step 1: Locate.

Step 2: Arrest.

Step 3: Collect fine, seizing all assets if necessary.

Step 4a: Give them the choice of 4 years of active duty, non-reserve, non-guard military service, or immediate deportation.

Step 4b: Upon refusal of military service, deport immediately, and charge AND COLLECT the cost of deportation from the illegal's home country.

Step 5: Automatic arrest & maximum term imprisonment if found in the United States illegally again.

Key word "Illegal", deport with no option to come back.

Professor Veritas wrote:

Step 1: Locate.
Step 2: Arrest.
Step 3: Collect fine, seizing all assets if necessary.
Step 4a: Give them the choice of 4 years of active duty, non-reserve, non-guard military service, or immediate deportation.
Step 4b: Upon refusal of military service, deport immediately, and charge AND COLLECT the cost of deportation from the illegal's home country.
Step 5: Automatic arrest & maximum term imprisonment if found in the United States illegally again.

How are you going to enforce Step 4b. Let's say we deport someone to Mexico then tell them to pay up, and Mexico says no. Do we go to war?

I think you're forgetting the US doesn't have international jurisdiction.

1) Enforce
2) Deport
3) Build the wall
4) Send the bill south

TheTimeIsNow wrote:

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How are you going to enforce Step 4b. Let's say we deport someone to Mexico then tell them to pay up, and Mexico says no. Do we go to war?
I think you're forgetting the US doesn't have international jurisdiction.

Yeah ... I guess we can just add it to the $10 Trillion debt.

Professor Veritas wrote:

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Yeah ... I guess we can just add it to the $10 Trillion debt.

Or better yet:
1- Accuse mexico of sponsoring invaders/terrorists.
2- Invade Mexico to "liberate" its people and "rebuild" the country
3- Spend another $500 billion (and add that to the 10 trillion debt record too?)
Oooooops! Mexico does not have petroleum... Oh! forget about it, just deport everybody and add costs to the 10 trillion debt...very good idea professor veritas...you are truly a truthful and inspiring person...your students are certainly getting the best America has to offer...

Sixty years ago,my Dad was an INS officer in El Paso and then on the Canadian border....he said, Solve the illegals problem..arrest and prosecute the people who hire them....when that happens then we will see a decline in the illegals, but that will happen when Swift, Tyson, and everyone else starts facing Criminal charges for employing people who they encouage to come here.

Find the people hiring them (not hard, just set up a camera outside a Home Depot). Seize their assets. Use those assets to pay to deport the illegals.

Jose wrote:

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Or better yet:
1- Accuse mexico of sponsoring invaders/terrorists.
2- Invade Mexico to "liberate" its people and "rebuild" the country
3- Spend another $500 billion (and add that to the 10 trillion debt record too?)
Oooooops! Mexico does not have petroleum... Oh! forget about it, just deport everybody and add costs to the 10 trillion debt...very good idea professor veritas...you are truly a truthful and inspiring person...your students are certainly getting the best America has to offer...

oh yes they do along with natural gas as well. it's just that the mexican gov't won't let pemex develop it enough to help bring their country out of 3rd world status.

Invading Mexico would be a mixed blessing. It would be bad to start another war, but it could be a rallying cry for the Zapatistas.

The Zapatistas believe in true freedom, real democracy at the local community level, and local communities are free to confederate amongst themselves.

Heavily fine employees of illegals.

Cut off all social benefits to illegals immediatlely upon locating them. All legal cost to be covered by their families or supporters.

No anchor babies citizenship.

Deport and fine.

Charge Mexico for every illegal Mexican in America. Even accept payment in Oil. Yes, Mexico is rich in natural resources including Oil.

Complete the Fence and reinforcment with monitors and armed border patrol and landmines.

Sign along the Border, "This is America. We will not tolerate illegal entry."

REDPONY wrote:

WORKPLACE ENFORCEMENT.
DEPORTATION.
NO SOCIAL SERVICES TO NON CITIZENS.
ANCHOR BABIES NOT GIVEN CITIZENSHIP.
CHARGE MEXICO THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. TAKE IT OUT OF ANY AID WE GIVE THEM.

1. It isn't Mexico's fault that people choose to break the law and cross our border any more than it's the US' fault for Americans who go overseas and commit crimes.

2. Birth right citizenship was instituted, because a long time ago only white male property owners could be citizens. If we take this back then there could be people here for generations without being citizens.

A better solution is to deport the parents regardless of their child's citizenship status, and then the parents can take their kids, or leave them with someone else in the US. When the kids are older they can come here if they want.

Saif wrote:

Find the people hiring them (not hard, just set up a camera outside a Home Depot). Seize their assets. Use those assets to pay to deport the illegals.

Got my vote! Just adding: File criminal charges, false or stolen Social Security, rack up the criminal charges. Never let them back. Arm The Border. Revoke the anchor baby status of anyone with parents that are not here legally.

REDPONY wrote:

WORKPLACE ENFORCEMENT.
DEPORTATION.
NO SOCIAL SERVICES TO NON CITIZENS.
ANCHOR BABIES NOT GIVEN CITIZENSHIP.
CHARGE MEXICO THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. TAKE IT OUT OF ANY AID WE GIVE THEM.

+ Take all assets! Make them pay for every dime of social service they used. Prosecute USA government officials refusing to enforce current laws!

Jose wrote:

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Or better yet:
1- Accuse mexico of sponsoring invaders/terrorists.
2- Invade Mexico to "liberate" its people and "rebuild" the country
3- Spend another $500 billion (and add that to the 10 trillion debt record too?)
Oooooops! Mexico does not have petroleum... Oh! forget about it, just deport everybody and add costs to the 10 trillion debt...very good idea professor veritas...you are truly a truthful and inspiring person...your students are certainly getting the best America has to offer...

Mexico DOES have oil, and is a very large output. It's the biggest National Revenue. The problem is the Government is so corrupt that none of it goes to the people in the country.
Illegals sending money back from USA is like 3rd or 4th highest revenue.

TheTimeIsNow wrote:

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1. It isn't Mexico's fault that people choose to break the law and cross our border any more than it's the US' fault for Americans who go overseas and commit crimes.
2. Birth right citizenship was instituted, because a long time ago only white male property owners could be citizens. If we take this back then there could be people here for generations without being citizens.
A better solution is to deport the parents regardless of their child's citizenship status, and then the parents can take their kids, or leave them with someone else in the US. When the kids are older they can come here if they want.

1. It is Mexico's fault. They encourage their citizens to cross the border. The Mexican Government even printed a comic book to show WHERE, HOW, and WHAT to take when you cross the border.
Mexico has almost 50 Consulates here to do one thing, help illegals to survive by teaching them how to get Social Services, Medical Care, where to go for jobs, etc. If America had the same programs in another country, we would be thrown out and be paying compensation.
If America had the same programs HERE, Illegals would not have jobs as our problem is not Americans won't do the jobs, it that they have been misplaced by Illegals when they came in and worked for less. So the local American workers had to move to the cities or other locations to be able to live. So when the Illegals leave an area, there are NO local American workers. We need programs to
a. Stop employers from EVER hiring Illegals. You can't expect American workers to move to the job site without a guarantee that they won't be displaced AGAIN.
b. Force employers to pay a living wage.
c. To geographically re locate American workers to the areas that need the labor.

2. Problem with that is when the kid turns 21, they can sponsor their parents, siblings, and wife/kids.
So for each "autocitizen", you can have 8-20 sponsored that doesn't count in our legal Immigration system, and it's not predictable.
We should stop anchor babies AND ALL immigration for five years to get a handle on it before re instituting immigration in an orderly manner.
We no longer have the resources to take everyone that wants to be here.

No more benefits ,no dream act ,no healthcare, no opportunity ,until they enter my Country legally .And deportation.

The Mexican Government approved two more consulate offices, one in Boise, Idaho, and another in Anchorage, Alaska. A new bigger one in Dallas, Tx.

Read about their new plans: their own anti-defamation league & more.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/n... #