Template talk:World's most populated metropolitan areas

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I just want to note that urban area and metropolitan area are different. Please read the respective article to see the differences.Chris! _ct 06:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Right, so if there is a template for one, then there should be for the other. This one is titled largest "metros" which is a terrible title. But still refers to metro areas, so it should be a list of metro areas not urban areas.DaronDierkes (talk) 09:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cities/municipalities vs metros vs urban areas

Why is this template being placed on individual central city articles, and why do all of the links point to individual cities? Most metros/urban areas have their own articles, which seems like the more appropriate place for the template, given that they're the subject here.66.92.14.198 (talk) 17:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I second that question! DaronDierkes (talk) 02:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I think you guys should bring this up to the talkpage of List of urban areas by population. The info of this template is taken from the article. Chris! _ct 02:32, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Either you have no idea what I am talking about or I have no idea what you are talking about. This template is called "worldlargestmetros" which if you were to look up as metro you would be redirected to rapid transit. Thus this template appears to be talking about trains. Under that assumption, i have made these remarks. If you do not mean metro in the train sense, and instead mean metropolis or metropolitan area then you should change the title of the template to make it specify that. if you do mean metropolitian area, then you cannot then list cities according to List of urban areas by population or World's largest urban agglomerations you would have to use List of metropolitan areas by population. If that is what we are talking about, then I would say linking to the individual city and not the area article is best as different cities call the region around them different names that mean different things and are subject to different criteria. As far as I know, there are no articles for specific urban areas just things like, "Greater St. Louis" or "Seoul National Capital Area" which are radically different in concept. So link to the base city, that's fine. DaronDierkes (talk) 03:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

When i wrote that I seconded that remark, I was thinking in terms of linking to Beijing Subway etc. DaronDierkes (talk) 03:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

This template is clearly meant to point to major metropolitan areas. Because of this, it should follow the example of List of metropolitan areas by population and point to metropolitan area articles (such as Osaka-Kobe-Kyoto), not city articles. In any case, I think it's little more than needless clutter on articles which probably already mention their size in their lead. -- Exitmoose (talk) 04:50, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

If the template is a extension of that page, then the link should be to whatever is on that page. I looked at the source on List of metropolitan areas by population page, and almost all of them are linked to such a macro article. I agree with the moose. That's two votes for a major change to this template. Any nays? I'm removing the links. When we settle what this page is talking about, we will place the template in the related articles. Cool? good. DaronDierkes (talk) 08:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

more than fifty templates to remove, what a task. DaronDierkes (talk) 09:20, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

deleted all of them up to and including East Rand, but then had to leave my computer due to interference of the girlfriend variety. Will wipe the rest soon. DaronDierkes (talk) 10:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

All templates removed from pages except the one just posted on Metro Manila. Let's talk about where the templates belong. DaronDierkes (talk) 02:45, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Made a drastic change to the template, please forgive my hastiness. haven't put the template in any articles yet. DaronDierkes (talk) 03:48, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Population

Why are they ranked by population? What does population have to do with subway and metro rail networks? Rail is just one type of growth and does correlate directly with population. Ho Chi Min City is listed here, and they do not have a metro system! I was there last April, the only transit related construction I saw was done by barefoot men with jackhammers tearing up sidewalks to expand the streets for more mopeds. Try stats that have something to do with the subject in question like, Metro systems by annual passenger rides or Metro systems by number of stations. Those are far more telling. Right now you have Jakarta and LA ranked in front of Moscow, London, and Paris which says that you have clearly never been to the cities in question. Explain to my how the Cairo subway is more developed than the Moscow subway. DaronDierkes (talk) 02:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not attacking, I just want to steer this in a healthy direction. DaronDierkes (talk) 02:18, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I believe you misunderstood the title. When it says "metro" it means "metro area" or "metropolitan area". This has nothing to do with subway. Admiral Norton ^(talk) 17:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Right. So I'm fully in favor of a better title. DaronDierkes (talk) 02:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] {{pp-template}} probably shouldn't be transcluded

{{editprotected}} Looks like the recently added {{pp-template|small=yes}} should be moved to the <noinclude> part of the template; otherwise it's marking all articles transcluding the "World's most populated ..." template (e.g., Cairo) as indefinitely protected. Thanks, Hqb (talk) 20:12, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Y Done Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 22:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)