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< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 13 OF 13 ·  Later Kibitzing > Sep-04-08    micartouse: Nice going Topalov! Carlsen is a tough opponent for him, so this has to be a fun way to take the lead. Sep-04-08    Bobsterman3000: Ummmmm, is this really that much of a good game for Topalov? Yes, I am a Topalov fan, but this is just another day at the office for a super GM - opponent plays an obvious mistake, and you ride it to the victory. Any of the other 4 players at Bilbao would have been able to execute this victory to its conclusion after Carlsen's b4 ?? howler. I don't think that this is even one of Topalov's 20 best victories that I've seen... Sep-04-08    alexmagnus: <Bobsterman> Actually b4 was approved of even by computers, thpugh it should have been followed by Rc7 and not Bc7... Sep-04-08    mrbasso: Is 15.b4 a computer move? Fritz and Rybka suggest it. GM Ftacnik played 15.Qe2, GM Romanishin 15.Bb1 in the pre-computer era. Sep-04-08    Karnatakiaditya: Could somebody please tell me what is a dancing rook? Sep-04-08    tamar: <Karnatakiaditya: Could somebody please tell me what is a dancing rook> Tune in on the live games and you will see it when there is a victory. Once the live game is over, the game is transferred to this type of page, and you don't see it. Sep-04-08    boz: <Actually b4 was approved of even by computers> True, so it's not a "howler" by any means. On the other hand Topalov must have disagreed with the computer evaluation. He must have known what the computers were recommending since the line was his preparation, yet he invited the move anyway. Sep-04-08    Bobsterman3000: <alexmagnus> and <boz> I see, thanks for correcting me on that. So, maybe it's possible that Magnus took a big, shaky risk based on sheer intuition, and not study. If he had properly analyzed b4 then it's logical to think that he would have found the follow-up moves suggested by the engines that liked b4... Sep-04-08    hardliner: Topa played an almost flawless game, with most of the computer's first choises. Very impressive! Sep-04-08    JointheArmy: < Topa played an almost flawless game, with most of the computer's first choises.> Are you trying to start something, now? Sep-04-08    hardliner: No, I serious. You believe Magnus did it all by himself? Sep-04-08    JointheArmy: <hardliner> Nvm. I thought it was just an open invitation for people to start accusing of Topalov using assistance again. Sep-04-08    hardliner: <JointheArmy> Well, the thought crossed my mind, but this was not the intention of the post. I really think he played a great game. Sep-04-08    syracrophy: <hardliner><JointheArmy> You both should better go to a page of political debates! :) Just enjoy the game. The organizators will take care of the cheaters Sep-04-08    twinlark: According to today's chessbase.com report, Carlsen was: <clearly out-of-sorts ...our Spanish colleagues tell us he brought a bug with him from the Moscow blitz>. Sep-04-08    sallom89: Blame it all on Deep Rybka 3, seems like he followed the computer ;o New game - Rybka 3 32-bit click for larger view Analysis by Rybka 3 32-bit: 1. = (0.12): 1.b4 cxb4 2.Rc7 Rb8 3.Qe2 b5 4.Rfc1 Rc8 5.Rxc8 Bxc8 6.Bc7 Qe8 7.h3 Bb7 2. = (0.10): 1.Qe2 b5 2.dxc5 Nxc5 3.Bb1 Rc8 4.Rfd1 Qb6 5.h3 Rfd8 6.Rxd8+ Qxd8 7.Ne5 Bg5 Sep-04-08    acirce: <twinlark> Too bad if that is true, but it might contribute to explaining his play here, not exactly at his highest standard. 15.b4 was at least OK, and GM Dimitrov said White could simply not count on an advantage in this position by normal means. But he followed up too hesitantly, and soon it had simply turned out very badly. And then 21.Nd2? to top it off, although already in an uncomfortable position. Of course, missing 24..Bd8 three moves in advance is human. Sep-04-08    twinlark: I hope he recovers in time to put up a decent showing. Sep-04-08    Atking: <Of course, missing 24..Bd8 three moves in advance is human.> Yes especially in this short time control. One should not be taken outside his opening preparation. Topalov is well know to dominate in this phase of the game. In this tourament maybe Ivanchuk could compet with him but every body know that his time management is one of the wort in the world... I really think that 15.b4!? was a great test but Carlsen took too much time on it. Maybe on a usual time control he will have found a better line to prove the value of this gambit. What about my suggestion of yesterday 18.Ref1 with 18.d5. ? Sep-05-08    MindCtrol9: <I just took a look at the game.I see <37.a5> instead of <37.Bf3> I don't know if I'm wrong,but let me know if I am> Sep-05-08    ahmadov: Was there not a better move than 15.b4 or is it still from the book? Sep-05-08    ahmadov: <SwitchingQuylthulg> has just provided some interesting analysis of this game as of move 21 on my forum... Sep-06-08    Duck McCluck: good luck magnus, you still have 4 more games, win them all! Sep-10-08    Udit Narayan: Susan Polgar is photographing the back of Carlsen's head. Sep-12-08    SuperFly: <Susan Polgar is photographing the back of Carlsen's head.> The idiot!! Jump directly to page #    (enter number from 1 to 13) < Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 13 OF 13 ·  Later Kibitzing >		How Carlsen Became the Youngest GM in the World

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