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| Apr-04-05 |
| dragon40: <backward development> Here is some of your variation..I do tend not to trust very long variations, because at so many times, there are other paths and all players are more or less inclined to make moves depending upon their taste or evaluation os a position..but here it what my Fritz came up with so far.
It seems White maintains a slight pull. but it would be hard to squeeze a full point from barring any blunders or time difficulties...good idea in general tho :) 1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. d4 cxd4
4. Nxd4 Qb6
5. Nb5 a6
6. Be3 Qd8
7. N5c3 <7. N5a3 b5 8. c4 b4 9. Nc2 Nf6
10. Nd2 Bb7 11. f4 d6 12. Qf3 g6 13. O-O-O Bg7 14. e5 dxe5 15. fxe5 Nd7 16. e6
fxe6 17. Nb3 Qc7 18. Qh3 Bc8 19. Be2 Nf6 20. Bh6 O-O 21. Bxg7 Kxg7 {
Gurevich,I-Polgar,J/New York 1992/CBM 31/1/2-1/2 (35)>
7... e6 8. g3
<8.Be2 Nf6 9. f4 (9. O-O b5 10. Nd2 Bb7 11. f4 d6 12. Bf3 Qc7 13. Nb3 Be7 14. Qe2 O-O 15. Rad1 Rfe8 16. Qf2 Rac8 17. g4 b4 18. Na4 Nb8 19. e5 Bxf3 20. exd6 Bxd6
21. Qxf3 Nd5 22. Rd2 Nd7 23. Nd4 N7f6 {
Khakimov,T-Gazizov,R/Samara 2002/CBM 89 ext/0-1 (33)> <9... d5 10. e5 Nd7 11.Bf3 g5 12. fxg5 Ndxe5 13. Bxd5 exd5 14. Nxd5 Bg4 15. Qd2 Nc4 16. Qd3 N6e5 17. Qe4 Bf5 18. Qd4 Bg7 19. Nbc3 Nf3+ 20. gxf3 Bxd4 21. Bxd4 Qxg5 22. Nf6+ Ke7  ogers,I- arpman,V/ elgrade 1988/CM 10/0-1> <(8. Nd2 b5 9. a4 b4 10. Nd5 exd5 11. exd5 Na5 12. Qe2 Qe7 13. d6 Qe6 14. Qh5 Nc6 15. Bc4 Qg6 16. Qe2 Bxd6 17.Bc5+ Nge7 18. Bxd6 Qxd6
19. Ne4 Qh6 20. Rd1 d5 21. Bxd5 O-O
22. O-O Nxd5
Fahnenschmidt,G-Guenther,T/ad Woerishofen 2000/CM 75 ext/0-1 (66)>
8... Bb4
9. Bg2 Nf6
10. O-O O-O <(10... d6 11. Na4 =)>
11. Kh1 <(11. a3 Ba5  )>
11... d6 <Secures c5>
12. f4 Qc7
13. a3 Bc5
14. Bxc5 dxc5
15. Rf2 Rd8
16. Rd2 Rxd2
17. Nxd2 e5
18. Nd5 Qd8
19. Nc4 <(19. Qg1 Be6 20. Qxc5 Rc8  )>
19... exf4 <(19... Be6 20. fxe5 Ng4 21. Qg1 = )>
20. Nxf4 Bg4 <(20... Bg4 21.Qxd8+ Rxd8 )>
<(20... Qe8 21. Nd5 Ng4 22. Qg1 =)> Overall evaluation in the final position after 20...Bg4 was 0.35 so a very minute edge for White according to silicon analysis :) |
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| Apr-16-05 |
| Backward Development: <@dragon40, and all> I wrote up the analysis for the line 4...Qb6 5.Nb5 a6 6.Be3 Qd8 7.N5c3 e6 8.g3!? and put it on a webpage I've recently created. You may view it here: www.geocities.com/packdlikesardines... BTW dragon40, when are you going to send me your move in our e-mail game? :-) |
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| Apr-20-05 |
| dragon40: <backward development> I will check the web page out, and I sent my move to you a while back, I have been waiting on your reply! LOL |
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| Jul-19-05 |
| aw1988: For some reason, this isn't doing too well in tournaments lately. What is it, new resources for White or just sloppy playing. |
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| Jul-19-05 |
| aw1988: Replace the latter period with a question mark. |
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| Oct-13-05 |
| AlexanderMorphy: i like this sicilian but from here i play the accelerated fiachetto variation with Bc4...well not in tournaments i don't lol |
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| Oct-13-05 |
| AlexanderMorphy: what i mean is 1.e4,c5 2.Nf3,Nc6 3.d4,cxd4 4.Nxd4,g6 5.Nc3,Bg7 6.Be3,Nf6! |
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| Jan-06-06 |
| blingice: I play 5.  xc6. Is this a good strategy? I see only 13 games, so I'm guessing it isn't good against very good players, or it just hasn't been used. |
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| Jan-14-06 |
| mikhail kams: i wish see leko profile |
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| Jan-14-06 |
| SnipingBishop: <aw1988> Seeing you are a sveshnikov player, i wanna ask you how you cope with the vast amount of theory and how you learned the opening (as well as your opinions about some of the variations). I play the dragon which has basically been my defence during my entire 5 to 6 years playing chess. However recently iv been finding a new defence against 1.e4 (coz, 1. just finding something new, 2. getting bored with dragon, 3. disliking the 9.0-0-0 more and more...) During my search for an exciting reliable opening i found the sveshnikov and i bought two books on it (the easy guide and the one by rogozenko). However i got majorly put off by the mass of theory... Therefore help and advice from you will be much appreciated. Thx |
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| Jan-14-06 |
| aw1988: The "vast amount of theory" for me was fairly easy to, er, assimilate. But it may depend on the person. I find in the Svesh it's a question of ideas and timing more than actual theory, as it's far more simple than say KID. I mean, I recognized the basic main lines, tricks, sacrifices, maneuvers etc etc, and the rest is play by position. Still, I recommend the books... Don't be so concerned about the theory if you're put off. Go through the book, but look at the ideas in the variations, it's far more enjoyable and comprehensive. |
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| Jan-19-06 |
| SniperOnG7: Hey thanks! I'll work on it.
BTW: sorry i replied so late. i checked a couple of times and thought that no one would come to this page so i gave up :D |
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| Jan-20-06 |
| SniperOnG7: <aw1988>
Another question...
Maybe i am wrong but as i was studying the positional line (ie the Nd5 followed by Bxf6 line), i observed that in the elite class, this variation often ended in draws. Is this variation that easy to end in 1/2 1/2 or is the result due to their superior skills? |
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| Jan-20-06 |
| aw1988: I'd reply that everything is decided on the practical level, and that a game can be drawn through any number of infinite possibilities. Nd5 and Bxf6, or the immediate Bxf6, are both full of life. Of course, there's also 7. a4 and 7. Nd5 if you're interested. |
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| Jan-21-06 |
| SniperOnG7: Yeah, I'll look at them. Though now that iv studied over the ideas of the positional line, its time for the juicy mainline :D |
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Feb-21-06
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| Sneaky: <I play 5 Nxc6. Is this a good strategy? I see only 13 games, so I'm guessing it isn't good against very good players, or it just hasn't been used.> Black wants to play ...d5 to get a good game, after Nxc6 bxc6 it's pretty much guaranteed that Black will get to play ...d5 without much fuss. I wouldn't say that Black comes out better, but it certainly doesn't give Black anything to worry about. |
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| Feb-21-06 |
| azaris: It's likely that 5.Nxc6 is no better or worse than 5.Nc3 e5 6.Nxc6. One idea would be to refrain from Nc3 to get in c2-c4 first, but after 5.Nxc6 bxc6 6.Bd3 e5, I don't see what the point of c4 is, exactly. |
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| Jul-10-06 |
| blingice: Vishy looks like he's rather good at this opening: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...(B33)+as+White+. |
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Nov-27-06
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| Open Defence: <Sicilian Sveshnikov> after 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6.Ndb5 d6 7.Bg5 a6 8Na3 b5 9.Nab1 strange that there are not many black wins in this.. you have to advance upto move 12 in the opening explorer until it branches to a line in which black has won some games in the db namely:
from here Opening Explorer to here:
Opening Explorer |
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| Apr-25-07 |
| Ryan Razo: Maybe it was just quite unfortunate that the Lasker-Pelikan variation was not given a separate ECO code. It has been shown that B33 has many possibilities. |
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Jan-06-08
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| keypusher: Not sure this belongs here, but OE thinks it does. This is an interesting game against <whatthefat> on gameknot. I was White. 1. e4 c5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. d4 cxd4
4. Nxd4 Nf6
5. Nc3 e5
6. Ndb5 d6
7. Nd5 Nxd5
8. exd5 Nb8
7. Nd5 seems like a good way to avoid the heavily booked lines and lead to a quieter, more closed position. 9. c4 Be7
10. Be2 a6
11. Nc3 O-O
12. O-O Bf5
I think this is all book, but ...Bf5 seeems questionable to me. Black wants to play ...f5, and the bishop move doesn't help him do that. On the other hand, where else is the bishop supposed to go? 13. Be3 Nd7
14. Rc1 Rc8
15. Qd2 Bg6
16. b4 h6
Black's last move seems like a waste of time. ...Bg6 is also slow, but seems necessary to get out of the way of the f-pawn. 17. c5! f5?
17...dxc5 18. d6 Bg5 19. Nd5 Bxe3 20. Qxe3 gives White a clear advantage. But now he is nearly winning by force. 18. c6! f4
18...bxc6 19. dxc6 Nf6 (19...Rxc6?? 20. Qd5+) 20. Bxa6 f4 21. Bxc8 Qxc8 22. Bb6 gives White a winning advantage. 19. cxd7 Qxd7
19....fxe3 20. dxc8/Q exd2 21. Qxd8 dxc1/Q 22. Qxf8+ Kxf8 23. Rxc1 wins. 20. Bb6
A piece down with no compensation, Black resigned here. What's that you say? He didn't resign? Hmmm... 20. ... f3!
21. gxf3 Rf4
22. Rfe1? Qh3!
As my opponent pointed out afterwards, the strongest defense is Kh1 and Rg1 followed by Rg2, when White's king is impregnable. This never occurred to me. But I thought I had it all worked out... 23. Bf1 Qxf3
24. Ne2 Rxc1
25. Rxc1?
This loses! White's only hope is 25. Qxc1, where 25...Rg4+ 26. Ng3 Be4 27. Qc8+ Kh7 28. Qxg4 Qxg4 29. Rxe4 staves off mate and leaves White with three pieces for the queen. I avoided this because I thought I had a better defense, but it turned out there was a pretty big hole in it. My opponent showed me a stronger line for Black afterwards than the one given above that he thought would have ended in a draw, but I don't remember it. <whatthefat>, are you around? 25. ... Rg4+
26. Ng3 Be4!
With dawning horror, I realized that, since my knight was pinned, I had no defense against Qh1#. I played 27. Rc3 and resigned. Sort of embarrassing to go from a win to being mated by force in six short moves, but still, a pretty funny game, even if the last laugh was on me... |
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Jan-07-08
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| whatthefat: <keypusher>
It was quite an amusing game. I obviously got into a lot of trouble in the opening, and was lucky to whip up an attack. 12...Bf5 was following Juan Morgado's recommendation in NIC, intending to follow Campora vs Illescas-Cordoba, 2003 where Black stood better but made some terrible endgame errors. Of course, 12...f5 is good too, but it makes the most sense against 10.Bd3, when Black may later hope to play ...f5 and ...e4. As you can probably tell, I was very much hoping to follow Illescas-Cordoba's plan of ...h6 and ...Bg5, but it is no longer applicable after the strong 16.b4, and I was rightfully punished with 17.c5! Realizing the difficulty of my position, I decided to throw caution to the wind and launch an attack with ...f5-f4. It is of course not sound, but since I found it difficult to come up with a defence for White, I hoped the same might apply to my opponent. The refutation of the attack was in fact 22.Kh1! 25.Rxc1 was an unfortunate blunder, and I had expected something like 25.Qxc1 Be4 26.Ng3 Bxd5 27.Qc8+ Kf7 28.Qh3 Rg4 29.Bg2 Qxg2+ 30.Qxg2 Bxg2 31.Kxg2 
click for larger viewwhich I expected to probably draw with either 31...Rxb4 or maybe 31...h5. |
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Jan-13-08
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| Ron: The following is a position which has occurred from the Sveshnikov:
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nc6 6.Ndb5 d6 7.Bf4 e5 8.Bg5 a6 9.Na3 b5 10.Nd5 Be7 11.Bxf6 Bxf6 12.c3 Ne7 13.Nxf6 gxf6: 
click for larger viewHere one of the common moves that White makes is 14. Bd3. A rare move is 14.Qh5. Qh5, though, does not seem to be bad at all, and might have value for one prepared in this variation. |
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Jan-13-08
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| tpstar: <Ron> Using the Sveshnikov move order (2 ... Nc6 & omit 7. Bf4 e5) to save a move pair, the most common response to 11 ... Ne7 12. Nxf6+ gxf6 is 13. c4 Opening Explorer although 13. Nc2 scores better, followed by 13. Be2. One db game with 13. Qh5 = B Lengyel vs M Pavel, 2006 I would think 12. Nxe7 is more thematic, helping White maintain control of d5, yet Black scores great in that line = Opening Explorer |
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| Apr-17-08 |
| freeman8201: i heard this is the new rave. the Sveshnikov avoids the English attack? |
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