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Jan-20-05
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| cuendillar: This seem to have become fashionable at playchess.com, faced it 3 times in 1 hour. In those games 3.c3 seemed to work well, white basically being a tempo ahead in the Sicilian, Alapin (b22) |
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Jan-20-05
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| Akavall: It seems that after 2... a6, black doesn't allow an open Sicilian, but.. If white wants to play open Sicilian they can just play 3. Nc3 instead of 3. d4. And after I think any black move they can play d4. So I don't really get the idea behind O'Kelly... |
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Feb-13-05 |
| hintza: Here is a nice variation of fool's mate I played today against a weak opponent in a blitz game: White: hintza
Black: Guest[insert a few random numbers here]
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 a6 <The O'Kelly Variation; a rarity in my experience.> 3.c4! <This is much better than 3.d4, after which Black's somewhat dubious 2...a6 serves a real purpose.> 3...f6?? <Whether Black moved the wrong pawn accidentally or through a blunder we will never know, but after this weak move his fate is sealed.> 4.d4 b6 5.Be2 Bb7 6.Nc3 g6 <Clearly Black's plan is to weaken his K-side as much as possible!> 7.Be3 h6 <The natural continuation of Black's plan! (see note to move 7)> 8.0-0 g5?? 9.Nxg5! fxg5?? 10.Bh5# Black could have averted the mate by 9...Bg7, but he would still be virtually lost. |
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Feb-13-05 |
| hintza: An interesting companion to the above game is the well-known trap in <Knight13>'s beloved Bird's Opening: 1.f4 e5! <The dangerous From's Gambit> 2.fxe5 d6! 3.exd6 Bxd6 4.Nc3?? <This natural-looking developing move actually loses immediately:> 4...Qh4+ 5.g3 Qxg3 6.hxg3 Bxg3#. This is another example of the fool's mate theme being exploited to the full. 4.Nf3 is the only safe way of meeting From's Gambit, eliminating Black's threats unless of course White plays h3!(after 4...Nc6)! |
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May-09-05 |
| chessboyhaha: Refutor you're wrong!!!!!!It's not 3...e5 the main line ,it's 3...Nf6 4.Nc3 and now 4...e5 begging a type of Sveshnikov without Nc6 and alredy played a6. |
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May-09-05 |
| chessboyhaha: 3.c3 Nf6 4.e5 Nd5 5.d4 ( 5.Bc4 Nb6 6.Bb3 e6 = ) 5...cd4 6.Nd4 d6 7.Bc4 Nb6 8.Bb3 Cc6 9.Cc3 d5 10.h3 Bf5 11.Nh4 Be6 12.f4 g6 13.g4 Bg7 with incert future. 3.c3 not is the "refutation" of the O'Kelly.
If someone wants to discuss the Hungarian Variation(B53) leave your comment there. If someone wants to discuss the O'Kelly(B28) more profund leave your comment here. |
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May-09-05 |
| chessboyhaha: 3.d4 not is a mistake. it's the move that more complicate the position |
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May-09-05
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| refutor: 3.d4 is a mistake in this line |
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May-10-05 |
| BiLL RobeRTiE: <chessboyhaha> It's definitely a mistake, and you definitely are horrible at both chess and English. |
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May-11-05 |
| chessboyhaha: BiLL RobeRTiE, try to live in the South America, try to have 11 and try to write in English with 11 years old living in South America |
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May-11-05 |
| chessboyhaha: What line refutor? |
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May-11-05
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| refutor: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 a6 3.d4? is a mistake, see the previous posts |
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May-11-05 |
| BiLL RobeRTiE: <chessboyhaha> Your national origins are superfluous. My point is, your posts are both incorrect with regards to chess and difficult to decipher. |
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May-31-05 |
| rudysanford: I noticed that 4. Bc4 is almost never played- similar to Rossolimo but targeting the other side. Isn't putting pressure on f7 advisable or is it thought to be too soon for that? |
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May-31-05
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| e4Newman: for Bc4 check out the sozin variation |
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Jul-20-05 |
| chessboyhaha: no it's not, what other move in his place?
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Oct-13-05 |
| AlexanderMorphy: this can quite easily transform into the najdorf! |
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Mar-31-07
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| Knight13: <refutor: 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 a6 3.d4? is a mistake> I think he means Black might now play ...cxd4 and instead plays ...e6.. |
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Mar-31-07
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| Knight13: <I think he means Black might now play ...cxd4 and instead plays ...e6..> meant "might not play" not "might now play." |
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Mar-31-07 |
| HannibalSchlecter: IM Andrew Martin calls 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 a6. 3.c3! the acid test of the O'Kelly Sicilian. White's idea is to play a c3 or Alapin Siclian where the move 3.a6 would be rendered useless. White seems to be scoring well with it. |
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May-21-07
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| foolishmovesss: The only reason I play the O'Kelly, is to get into the dragon with out having to deal with a Yugoslav. Transposition into the Najdorf is also nice as you never face the english attack. The Maroczy bind is difficult to play against if you dont watch whats happening, but black has a fine game. The O'Kelly is great for book players who don't really know what is happening. Oh and yes 3) d4 is a pretty bad mistake, I have beat a few experts who didn't know not to play it. |
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May-21-07
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| Eric Schiller: <foolish> I don't understand. ...a6 is not part of Dragon main lines, so you should be in trouble against any Yugoslav Attack. The O'Kelly is a good route to Kan/Paulsen/Schven/Najdorf, but a poor choice if you want a main line Dragon. |
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May-21-07
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| foolishmovesss: I guess thats what I am saying Eric. I don't want it to be a main line really. I saw it somewhere called the dragondorf, basically a dragon with a6 of course. I believe I have seen it played my Nakumura. I could be wrong. |
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Jan-27-08 |
| omarbaguio: HELLO
IS THERE ANY BOOKS ON O'Kelly Variation ASIDE FROM EVERYMAN DANGEROUS WEAPONS !!!! |
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Mar-19-08 |
| Edwin Meyer: That would be; Sicilian defense: O'Kelly Variation by W. John Lutes. |
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