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| achieve: Notched up another WIN, eh?
Well, what to say, really... |
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| jessicafischerqueen: HI <Dr. Euwe the 1.c4 Encouraging Reverse FEN Promoting Friendly Analysis Elephant>1! Well It's yet to be tested against really tough opposition. I've been training hard with it against Little Chess Partner. I can last fine into the Middle Game against it with 1.c4, but it has this irritating habit of covering all the tactical bases... On the whole, however, I'm discovering the joys of attempting to play slower more positional openings. Interestingly, the Chess Partner never tries to steer the opening into A QG system... Also, all my opponents on <Yahoo> so far have played <1...e5>, which is DYNAMIC as your own experience shows... I've been replaying <Alekhine> using this opening. I just played through a very nice game where he outmanoeuvers <Sandwich>... Hang on I'll get it.
Alekhine vs Samisch, 1921 |
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Sep-13-08
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| jessicafischerqueen: Computers are like men...
I USE THEM EVERY DAY BUT THEY ARE VERY IRRITATING!!
HAHAHAHAAH
Ok a little sexism there...
Just think how funny the joke would be with the genders reversed... Mrs. Feminism |
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| achieve: <Just think how funny the joke would be with the genders reversed...> Hilarious! But yeah I think it "works in both directions"... I've been busting my nuts this early morning on the ASSIGNMENT <Be3> that my forum has gotten from the Big One, and gathered a lot of valuable material, BUT now I'm TOO TIRED to start doing the actual ANALYSIS! Tough job this is...
Back later... |
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| achieve: <I can last fine into the Middle Game against it with 1.c4, but it has this irritating habit of covering all the tactical bases...> You'll have to indeed go the way of the positional squeeze, with or without a 'sac'... The irritating thing is the fact that a game against an engine always lasts over 60 moves, well most of the time, so it takes up a lot of your time. But mostly a good investment. I can imagine the YAHOO games are more fun, though. Bit of trash talking... |
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Sep-13-08
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| jessicafischerqueen: Hi <Niels the Reverse FEN Dog Afficiando Chess Enthusiast Working on <Be3> Friendly Analysis Elephant>! Heh-- Well Game Two was Short, but it wasn't Short. My opponent was named "Al Jazeera" which I think is also a newspaper. Maybe it WAS the newspaper. Anyhoo,
I played Black <Swine Again> and I'm realizing I'm very, very comfortable with that set up... I think it gives Black a very solid platform for ensuing operations. Ok I'm going to investigate a few things now...
You are doing an important assignment for <The Big Cheese>, as are many others... No trash talking so far this season.
Always, though, from me-- "good luck" and "good game" no matter what. or "hola" and "benes jugarr"
heh |
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| jessicafischerqueen: <Niels the Very Hard Working Accurate Analysis Elephant>! Wow! I just glanced at your forum and its an <Elephant Hive> of hard work-- Also noticed your <K> Swine Again collection-- heh--
Finished playing for today, so I'm going in for some study... Chess study is Heaven if you are winning your games.
Tough to do after you lose.
However, I haven't lost yet since returning to Korea. Jess of the Waiting for Tougher Opposition... |
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Sep-13-08
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| achieve: Thanks, <Jess>-- I'm collecting some energy to go in for deep analysis of the gathered material... It's like a bottomless pit, and little gems keep popping up from the database that have even No Kibitzing, yet... A goldmine, really. < 6... Ng4 >
Whoooooo |
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Sep-13-08
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| jessicafischerqueen: Heh... Yes I'm familiar with the <6...Ng4> ploy... My favorite variation from there is
6...Ng4
7.Bc1 Nf6
8.Be3 Ng4
9.Bc1 Nf6
10.Be3
heh..
It's actually very interesting. It came up in the Consultation game I played in almost 2 years ago. Black doesn't really gain a tempo since after <7.Bc1> (Anand's preferred response) <7...any move> <8.f3> White regains the tempo because he wants his pawn on f3 anyways in many variations. Actually I remember that there was a big honking argument over the "phantom tempo gain" for Black... Of course, the "truth of the matter" may lie much deeper.... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
(ghost sounds)
Ok anyone who doesn't love chess.. well I just don't know. It truly is where a gnat may drink and a <Friendly Accurate Analysis Elephant> may bathe... whatever that means exactly.
I think we should ask <Howard>. |
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| achieve: <Black doesn't really gain a tempo since after <7.Bc1> (Anand's preferred response) <7...any move> <8.f3> White regains the tempo because he wants his pawn on f3 anyways in many variations.> Good point, although 7.Bc1 is little played, no? I'll check...
Be3-c1-e3-c1 Nf6-g4-f6-g4 ...
heh
I too think we should <Ask Howard>. Bar none. FAH - Frequently Asking Howard |
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| jessicafischerqueen: <Niels>
Right as usual-- the set up is different from where <Bc1> is a good move. In the Nickel Game, White has time to play Qb6 before Black kicks off the Knight with f3. So Black can't return the Bishop to e3 unless he wants a poison pawn thingy. Doh! |
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Sep-13-08
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| achieve: Yep, like in this game K Jarowski vs Leko, 1991 By all means post anything related in my place. Not much traffic now anyways. I'm going periscope down now for a while to analyse the two 'other' Leko games I hyperlinked... DIVE! DIVE!
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Sep-13-08
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| jessicafischerqueen: <TWINLARK DEFEATS A PLAYER 300 POINTS HIGHER THAN HIM IN CORRESPONDENCE!!? Twinlark (2015) v. Kiwilinoz (2463)
<Letsplaychess.com>
1. d4 d5
2. Nf3 c5
3. c4 e6
4. cxd5 exd5
5. g3 Nc6
6. Bg2 Nf6
7. O-O Be7
8. Nc3 O-O
9. dxc5 d4
10. Na4 Bf5
11. Bd2 Be4
12. b4 Qd5
13. b5 Ne5
14. Qb3 Rad8
15. Ba5 Rd7
16. Rac1 Re8
17. Rd1 Nxf3
18. exf3 Bg6
19. c6 bxc6
20. bxc6 Rd6
WHITE to move
click for larger view21. c7! Qxa5
22. cQ Rxc8
23. Rxc8 Rd8
24. Rxd8 Qxd8
25. Qc4 d3
26. Nb2 d2
27. Qc3
1-0
Heh- after <21.c7!> Black is forced to give up the exchange because he cannot adequately defend the <c8> square. Examples--
After <21.c7>...
click for larger viewIf <21...Rc8??> then <22.Qb8!> If <21...Bf6?> then <22.Bc4!> and the Black Rook on d6 has no square it can move to without leaving the c8 square undefended. Black must give up the exchange in this variation as well. If <21...Qa8?> then <22.Bh3!> Heh Well Done <Twinlark>!! Any further comments/analysis welcome.
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| jessicafischerqueen: Doh!
The opponent was 450 points higher!!
<Twinlark> scores a big scalp in this one. |
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| Red October: 1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 c5 3. c4 e6 4. cxd5 exd5 5. g3 Nc6 6. Bg2 Nf6 7. O-O Be7 8. Nc3 O-O 9. dxc5 d4 10. Na4 Bf5 11. Bd2 now here I think perhaps 11...Ne4 is better when play can continue 12.Rc1 Bf6 
click for larger viewOpening Explorer But Black decided on
11...Be4
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| hms123: <jess> Did you mean <21....Bf5 22. Bb4> rather than <<21...Bf6?> then <22.Bc4!>>? |
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| Red October: <continued>
Position after 11...Be4
click for larger view12.Rc1 was played in J Lechtynsky vs B Miljanic, 1987 but here 12.Re1 is also playable
12.b4 as played is probably best, but Black probably should should have gone for 12...b5 13.Nb2 and then 13...Qd5 13.b5 I feel this is much stronger than inviting a queen exchange with the immediate Qb3 but perhaps Black should have preferred 13...Nd8 to regroup to e6 and to pressure c5 13...Ne5 14.Qb3
well now I guess to main question is why not 14...Qxb3 ? I think after 15.axb3 Nxf3+ 16.exf3 Bd5 Black does not have any compensation for the pawn at all and in case of 16...Bd3 17.Rfe1 Rfe8 18.f4 Bxb5 19.Bxb7 White would be winning 16...Bd3 17.Rfe1 Rfe8 18.f4 Rab8 is interesting but 19.c6 bxc6 20.Bxc6 Bxb5 sacrificing the exchange may not be enough for Black after 21.Bxe8 Rxe8 22.Re5 White would double the Rooks on the e file and after an exchange of rooks I think White should be able to wrap it up <to be continued>
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| jessicafischerqueen: Howard--
Yes, sorry everyone.
Should read If If <21...Bf5?> then <22.Bb4!> thanks Howard! |
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| Ziggurat: <jfq> My flight actually went OK, considering I had two hyperactive kids with me (plus my wife, fortunately). Before the flight, I thought the other passengers would kill me, but we managed to pacify the kids with generous offerings of cartoons on an iPod Touch and exciting stories about Steinitz and Preston Ware (OK, I made that second part up). We flew via Bangkok during one of the days when some Thai airports were blocked by protesters, so we were a bit worried about becoming stranded in Thailand (not that it sounds too bad, actually). But everything went smoothly. Getting over the jet lag was another story ... |
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| Benzol: <jess> In answer to the question you asked earlier I'm afraid I have no idea what sort of tank it is. |
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Sep-13-08
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| hms123: <jess> On the <twinlark> game: First, <9....d4> has a question mark in my database. It looks like <9....Bxc5> is better but still difficult for Black. <10. Na4> is the correct reply to <9...d4>. Second, <12....b5 13.Nd2 Qd5 14.Qb3 Qxb3 15.axb3 Nd5 16.Nd3 Bf6 17.Rfc1> is not good for Black either. Third, <13. Qb3> looks to be stronger than <13. b5>; e.g., <13.Qb3 Qxb3 14.axb3 a6 15.Nb6 Rad8 16.Rfe1 Bc2 17.e3 dxe3 18.Rxe3 Ng4 19.Ree1 Bf6 20.Ra3>
click for larger view<21.c7!> was indeed the wining move. It was all mopping up after that. Nice game by <twinlark>. Thanks to <RO> for her comments. I tried not to duplicate her work. |
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| Boomie: <Twinlark (2015) v. Kiwilinoz (2463)> A few observations from the Rybka II opening book and the OE. 2...c5 is unusual but has performed well in engine matches and looks fine in the OE. 3. c4 looks best in the OE. Curiously c3 has the best result in Rybka II in a handful of games. This looks like a reversed which has gotta be good. 5. g3 is unusual but outperforms Nc3.
8...c4 is black's last chance to change the structure. Although this hasn't had much OTB success, the engines have done well with it in a few games. 9. dxc5 seems to do as well as Bg5. The difference may be a matter of style. 9...d4 appears playable in the OE but has done miserably in a handful of engine games. White's Rybka 3 eval jumps about 0.25 after d4. I don't see full compensation for the pawn either. 11. Bd2 rates slightly less than Bf4, a3, and Qb3 and 3 other options. The problem with it is 11...Ne4. Bd2 takes us out of the Rybka 11 book. 11...Be4 Of course if you know black won't play Ne4 then Bd2 is golden.
There is one game in OE with Be4 so this is the end of the book lines. The Rybka 3 eval difference between Ne4 and Be4 is almost 0.40 which makes is a candidate for a question mark. That's the end of the opening. White has a Rybka 3 eval of 0.70. |
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| Boomie: <Jessie> A page back there was some talk of planes and tanks in your header. My eyes are going 'cause all I can see is the Bobby 109 Messin'mit yer mind. |
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| Boomie: <3. c4 looks best in the OE. Curiously c3 has the best result in Rybka II in a handful of games. This looks like a reversed which has gotta be good.> Oops. That should read "reversed Slav" |
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| Woody Wood Pusher: <Ok anyone who doesn't love chess.. well I just don't know. It truly is where a gnat may drink and a <Friendly Accurate Analysis Elephant> may bathe... whatever that means exactly. >
hahaha you cracked me up... sometimes I feel like a flea on the gnat, but I still get that drink! |
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