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| chessgames.com: Yes it is a bug, thanks. |
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Jan-10-05 |
| azaris: A strange variation in the Glek that seems get some mileage from young players at the moment: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. g3 Nxe4!? (sort of a reverse Halloween Gambit) 5. Nxe4 d5 It seems White usually gives the piece back to return to the mainline as in: [Event "Valle d'Aosta op 11th"]
[Site "Saint Vincent"]
[Date "2003.02.08"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Sedina,Elena"]
[Black "Carlsen,Magnus"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "C47"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.g3 Nxe4 5.Nxe4 d5 6.Nc3 d4 7.Bg2 dxc3 8.bxc3 Bd6 9.0-0 0-0 10.Rb1 Rb8 11.d4 Bg4 12.h3 Bh5 13.g4 Bg6 14.dxe5 Nxe5 15.Nxe5 Bxe5 16.Qxd8 Rfxd8 17.f4 Bxc2 18.Rb2 Bd3 19.fxe5 Bxf1 20.Bxf1 b6 21.Kf2 Rd5 22.Bf4 Rbd8 23.Be2 h6 24.h4 Kf8 25.h5 Rc5 26.Rc2 Ra5 27.Ke3 Rc5 28.Ke4 Re8 29.Kf3 Re6 30.a4 c6 31.Bd3 Ra5 32.Bf5 Re7 33.Rd2 Rd5 34.Rd4 Re8 35.Be4 Rc5 36.c4 Kg8 37.Bf5 a6 38.Bd7 Ra8 39.e6 fxe6 40.Bd6 Ra5 41.Bxc6 Ra7 42.Bb4 Rg5 43.Rd8+ Kh7 44.Be4+ g6 45.hxg6+ Kg7 46.Bf8+ Kf6 47.Bxh6 1-0 But can White hang on to his knight extra? For example after 5...d5 6. Nc3 d4 7. Nb5 a6 8. Na3 e4 9. Nh4 g5 10. Ng2 Ne5 it's not a pleasant early middlegame for White, and not much better is 5...d5 6. Nc3 d4 7. Na4 e4 8. Nh4 Be7 9. Ng2 O-O 10. Be2 a6 11. b3 d3 12. cxd3 exd3 13. Bf3 Bf6 14. Bb2 Re8+ 15. Ne3 Bxb2 16. Nxb2 Nd4 So is this dubious gambit really best refuted by returning the material immediately? |
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May-25-05 |
| mandar: What is an belagrade gambit? |
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May-25-05 |
| aw1988: If you mean the Belgrade Gambit, it is 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. d4, although I don't think it's actually a gambit. |
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May-25-05 |
| hintza: That's just the Scotch Four Knights though. I didn't know it was also called the Belgrade Gambit. |
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May-25-05 |
| aw1988: Oh, my apologies. The Belgrade Gambit is actually 4. d4 exd4 5. Nd5. That's the Gambit part. |
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May-25-05 |
| hintza: I see, thanks for the clarification. |
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May-26-05 |
| mandar: Can any one tell me where i can get Opening book of hallowen gambit or otherwise how can i feed halloween gambit in my fritz? |
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May-26-05
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| Swapmeet: Not sure about literature on the Halloween gambit, but you can probably get some good ideas by looking at Grigor Minchev's games. He seems to have had some success with it. Then again, you probably want to play it because you looked at his games in the first place. |
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Oct-10-05 |
| AlexanderMorphy: This is popular among beginnners who strictly follow the rule, develop knights before bishops! |
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Oct-10-05 |
| Stevens: I love this opening as a way of avoiding the Ruy Lopez. With 4.d4 you get a "Scotch Four Knights" which i hhave found to be quite effective, though to some it will appear "drawish." |
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Oct-19-05 |
| Averageguy: The four knights is oftenplayed by begginers, especially the 4.Bc4 variation. If you are experienced, it is easy to refute this variation and win the game. For example, in a tournament at Aberdeen a few weeks ago I was black against a 1084 rated player, the game went like this: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bc4 Nxe4 5.Nxe4 d5 6.Bb5 dxe4 7.Nxe5 Bd7 8.Nxd7 Qxd7(He has the 2 bishops, but I have a
lead in development, the open d file, more space with a pawn in the centre and am ready to castle queenside.)9.Qe2
0-0-0 10.0-0(He couldn't take the e pawn due to 10...Re8 winning the queen.)10...f5 11.d3 Kb8(setting a neat trap and also playing an all round god defensive move.) 12.dxe4(falling for it) 12...Nd4! 13.Bxd7 (13.Q moves, N/Qxb5)13...Nxe2+ 14.Kh1 Rxd7 15.Be3 (seemingly trapping the knight, 15...Nd4 loses to 16>Rf/ad1 followed by c3)15...f4 maintains my extra piece and I won soon after. |
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Oct-19-05
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| suenteus po 147: <Averageguy> Thanks for the line! I hate getting into a Four Knights (from an abortive Petrov or Alekhine's), but that line sounds like a good alternative for black. |
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Oct-19-05 |
| Stevens: Any line is easy to refute when you're rated @600 points higher than your opponent! ;-) Good game by black though <averageguy> |
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May-22-06 |
| borisbadenoff: chessgames.com: There seems to be a bug. The diagramm shows 4. d4 as played while the move sequence doesn't |
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Sep-04-06
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| Robin01: AFter the line, 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Bc5 4. d3 Nf6, white played g3. Is this any good for white? What is black's best play here? Thanks. |
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Sep-04-06
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| percyblakeney: <What is black's best play here?> It doesn't look comfortable for white after 5. ... Ng4, a pawn is lost after 6. Be3 and other options seem to be worse... click for larger view |
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Sep-04-06
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| ganstaman: From <percyblakeney>'s diagram, what about 6. d4? Play will look similar to a reversed Two Knights Opening (1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc5 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5). I'm trying to work out concrete variations, but I don't have much time right now. Maybe later, or maybe someone else can figure them out. Just a thought for now. |
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Sep-04-06
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| NakoSonorense: <<What is black's best play here?>> You mean White's best play? I'm interested in this because I've had this same position with White in several games and I usually end up losing it... |
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Sep-04-06 |
| NateDawg: <Robin01> It is unusual for White to fianchetto in a classical opening such as the King's Pawn Game. Fianchettoeing kingside leaves the Knight at f3 undefended by pawns, and the bishop at g2 is usually locked in by White's pawn at e4. After 1. e4 e5 2. f3 c6 3. c3 c5 4. d3 f6 5. g3, Black can play 5...g4!, to which White must respond 6. d4. Then after 6...exd4 7. a4 e7 8. xc5 xc5 9. g2 d3! Black sets up the threat of xf2#. 10. 0-0 dxc2 11. e2 0-0 and Black is up by two pawns. Fritz 9 evaluates the position as (-1.02). click for larger view |
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Sep-05-06
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| Robin01: I appreciate the answers. Thanks. |
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Oct-10-06 |
| soughzin: I know the 4 knights isn't quite the ruy for seeking a sizeable advantage but it's a pain for black to know about. It's hard enough to worry about the ruy,the italian,the scotch,the KG,then in the 4 knights there's the glek,scotch 4 knights,belgrade,and 4.Bb5, 4 systems you have to know against just one branch after e5. I was thinking about playing 4...Bb4 to the scotch 4 knights so I never have to memorize belgrade stuff, does anyone know how the theory on this move is lately? *sorry if I bitch a lot I shouldn't play e5 if I don't want all the theory ; ) |
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Dec-12-06 |
| Stevens: has anyone played the Belgrade Gambit much here? Did you get any success? Do yo u still play it? 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.d4 exd4 5.Nd5 |
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Dec-31-06 |
| belgradegambit: Do I play it? What do you think? I have a 90% winning percentage on the internet with this line. The most popular response of the uninitiated is NxN. Bruce Monson's book on the gambit is excellent. Black has a number of equalizing lines but its a minefield. |
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Dec-31-06 |
| belgradegambit: <soughzin> White can also play very aggressively against that variation, see Harikrishna vs Mamedyarov, 2006 |
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