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| Jul-14-05 |
| hintza: I thought he played an English? |
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| Jul-14-05 |
| OneBadDog: I think it eventualy transposed into an English. |
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| Jul-14-05 |
| hintza: OK :) |
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| Jul-14-05 |
| OneBadDog: One advantage of the Reti is that it's a lot harder for Black to get away with playing crummy openings. I also think that the theory on Reti type positions is less developed-both sides have to think for themselves. |
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Jul-14-05
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| whiskeyrebel: Actually, theory runs deep in the Reti. It may seem free-form and artsy craftsy because different move orders are possible to achieve well known strategic setups. Kasparov / Karpov followed a familiar path and reached a familar branchoff position after a dozen moves or so. There are rather deep hardcore full Reti setups white can aim for if given the time. Black's setups were long ago identified with names such as the Capablanca, the Bled, the Tarrasch, the Romanishin, etc. If black chooses certain generic developement schemes he can survive the opening easily..if he chooses some that allow longterm weaknesses white is familiar with he/she can wind up in big trouble. As white I especially enjoy facing "solid" conservative setups (like pawns at c6, d5 and e6) that work against d4 but fail to a Queenside pawn steamroller in the Reti. I also enjoy seeing opponents trying to attack my Reti castled position. It's like throwing eggs at a tank. Of course I lose with it sometimes, but never to an attack on my King. |
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| Jul-14-05 |
| OneBadDog: <Actually, theory runs deep in the Reti. It may seem free-form and artsy craftsy because different move orders are possible to achieve well known strategic setups. > That may be true, but the theory is not worked out to the same extent as other openings, i.e. the Najdorf Sicilian, the KID and the Gruenfeld. |
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Jul-15-05
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| whiskeyrebel: I agree...in a "move order" sense. |
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| Jan-23-06 |
| EnglishOpeningc4: Anyone prefer 2.b4 to 2.c4? I dont like the line 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 d4 black can develop and maybe even gambit the pawn after it has done its job of making white's development hard. I usually play 1.Nf3 d5 2.b4!? to avoid this, and if i want a reti like game i play 1.c4!! c6 2.Nf3 d5 3. g3 and tranpose into the New York or Capablanca systems. Any solutions to the ...d5 system? |
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Jan-23-06
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| Ybrevo: On and off I have played the Reti for some years, and the major problem I have run into is, when Black likes to play Kings Indian or Pirc/Modern Defence. After the move order 1 Nf3 d6, I havenīt found any better way to avoid 2. - e5 but play 2. d4. Not much of a Reti left in that... <EnglishOpeningc4> After 1. Nf3 d5 2. c4 d4, the game can transpose into a reversed Benoni after 3. e3 or 3. g3. You may even go for a reversed Benko Gambit after a well timed b4 (if Black plays Pawn c5). Of course, if you donīt like to play these openings with Black pieces, <2. b4!?> seems to be a reasonable alternative. |
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Jan-23-06
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| AgentRgent: <EnglishOpeningc4> What is it about 1. Nf3 d5 2. c4 d4 that you don't like? I play 3. b4 and develop normally. The pawn on d4 shouldn't impede your development since your b1 knight will be headed to d2 not c3, and your Bb2 will help support a later e3 to break open the center after you've completed your development. |
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Jan-23-06
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| AgentRgent: <Ybrevo: You may even go for a reversed Benko Gambit after a well timed b4 (if Black plays Pawn c5).> As I play the Benko with Black, I LOVE it when I get to play it with White! |
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| Jan-23-06 |
| EnglishOpeningc4: <AgentRgent:> <<EnglishOpeningc4> What is it about 1. Nf3 d5 2. c4 d4 that you don't like? >
Lines like
1. Nf3 d5 2. c4 d4 3. e3 (3. b4 f6 4. e3 e5 5. exd4 exd4 6. Bb2 c5 7. d3) 3...
Nc6 4. d3 e5 get on my nerves because i have to change plans. obviously Bb2, Nbd2, and Qa1 lines wont work. there isnt anything wrong with white's position, it just isnt my style. |
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Feb-01-06
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| whatthefat: In an amusing sidenote, I played my first tournament Herrstrom gambit game the other day! i.e. 1.Nf3 g5?!
My opponent almost spat on the board!
After 2.Nxg5(!) e5 3.d4(!) Be7 4.h4!? h6 5.Ne4 d5 6.Nec3 e5
I had some compensation, but obviously it's not full. I played the opening for psychological effect however, and on those grounds I was relatively pleased. The game went on to finish in a draw, which is perhaps ironic from such an opening! From my work studying the gambit, it seems that white putting his knight on h3 is one way to obtain a solid advantage, so 4.Nh3!? is quite strong. If black ever plays ...Bxh3, besides losing the bishop pair, he allows white to challenge the g-file. |
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Feb-02-06
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| refutor: i dunno about 1.Nf3 g5 but i'm a big fan of 1.g4 Nf6 |
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Mar-07-06
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| Dim Weasel: <whatthefat> Here's one wild game beginning with 1.Nf3 g5:
Stohr vs E J Diemer, 1984 |
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| Mar-30-06 |
| DeepBlade: Hort vs A J Mestel, 1972 Cool defence name |
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Apr-01-06
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| whatthefat: <Dim Weasel>
Thanks for that, I was quite impressed. |
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Apr-17-06
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| ongyj: 1.Nf3 must be the most 'idealistic' first move. With this very move The knight is posted on a natural square (good for 0-0) and by not making a pawn move White has not made any 'premature' commitments for Black to even work on, since pawn moves are irreversible. Currently I like the setups of g3 Bg2 d3 Nbd2 ectera. Also, being new to this opening, I'd just like to check if the idea of 1...e6 attempting to play the disturbing ...g5 has been tried out before. Thanks for all the responses. |
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| Apr-17-06 |
| PizzatheHut: <ongyj> Many people argue that 1. e4 is the best opening move because it gains the most space. The e-pawn claims the d5 and f5 squares, and the queen and light-square bishop are released on their respective diagonals. |
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| Apr-17-06 |
| patzernic: Using your logic e5 must be the best reply for black, this surely brings equality. |
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Apr-17-06
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| ongyj: True, 1.e4 gains the most space, or I'd rather call it coverage or scope for both the King's Bishop and the Queen. In fact 1.e3 actually opens as much scope.[I know that this limits the potential scope of the c1 Bishop, but on the other hand Black would not have an e4 pawn as a target for counterattacking options, or White could then play b3 Bb2 ectera.]. In my opinion every pawn move is a positional judgement. Yet pawn moves are irreversible, unlike the Knights. Also, it's simply too early to judge the positional value of any pawn. "Considering that the knight on the rim is dim, an ideal 1st move would only be either 1.Nc3 or 1.Nf3. 1.Nf3 is easier to choose because firstly, 1.Nf3 covers e5 and g5 squares whereas 1.Nc3 could not cover the d5 pawn. Secondly, a very conventional opening idea would be to castle and attack on the queenside. If so, 0-0 is definitely much faster than 0-0-0, and if 0-0 is desired, surely 1.Nf3 should be more considered. Hence 1.Nf3 is the most idealistic move. Oops I realised my mistake. Like my previous post I'd forgotten to state that all these are purely based on what I know and feel. Of course everyone is unique and would think differently. However I'll like to discuess my opening philosophy with anyone, so would anyone please share theirs with me? Thank you very much indeed! As an additional opinion to 1.e4, has it occurred to anyone that almost every established defensive systems work on the 'characteristical flaw' of 1.e4 pawn? From Caro-Kann, French, Alekhines, to even specific lines of Sicilian, Pirc/Philador, Petroff, Ruy Lopez... an inexhaustive lists going on and on... All thanks to 1.e4. Not that it's unplayable, but I think I'd prefer to turn to more versatile 1.Nf3 and other interesting non 1.e4 opening moves like 1.b3!? and so on...That would mean I save myself alot of trouble from learning the Sicilian, Caro-Kann, Pirc, French, ... I think that suits a casual player like myself most :) |
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Jul-05-08
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| ravel5184: User: danielpi congratulations, you have completely convinced me to play this move in all my games now step aside, I have people to checkmate. :) |
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Jul-05-08
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| ravel5184: Game Collection: A 1. Nf3! Repertoire (Version 1.0) |
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Jul-05-08
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| ravel5184: Game Collection: A 1. Nf3! Repertoire (Version 2.0) |
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Jul-05-08
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| ravel5184: Game Collection: A 1. Nf3! Repertoire (Version 3.0) |
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