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| Benjamin Lau: Let's throw some life into this opening. How about 1. e4!? dxe4 2. f3
White loses some cover for his king in return (moving the f pawn can be dangerous sometimes) in return for a larger center and lots of open lines. Does anyone see a refutation? If not, I might try doing it just for some random fun. |
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| Jul-17-03 |
| drunknight II: do you mean 4 e4!? otherwise it is hard to follow what you are saying. |
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| Jul-17-03 |
| Benjamin Lau: <do you mean 4 e4!? >
Ooops, you're right. Still, what do you think? |
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| Jul-17-03 |
| drunknight II: I think the statistics for this opening show a shockingly high number of wins for white and losses for black. |
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| Jul-17-03 |
| Benjamin Lau: <I think the statistics for this opening show a shockingly high number of wins for white and losses for black.>
Yeah, I've been thinking about that too. There doesn't seem to be anything "wrong" specifically with the opening but the statistics hint at otherwise. |
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| Jul-17-03 |
| actual: I think it's a solid opening for black (the draw stats are pretty high) but not very ambitious... |
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Jul-17-03
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| Sneaky: Benjamin, this isn't exactly the line you mention but a similar idea. Steinitz plays an early f3 to support e4 in this opening. Steinitz vs Lasker, 1894 |
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| Mar-22-05 |
| Christian Sword: The answer to 4 e4 should be Nxe4 transposing to Lasker defence with one pawn up for black |
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| Mar-23-06 |
| WTHarvey: Here are some puzzles from the games of D35 miniatures: http://www.wtharvey.com/d35.html |
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Oct-14-06
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| Sneaky: Sneaky vs NN, 2+12 ICC blitz
my comments in <gold>1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Nf3 b6 
click for larger view<When I see my opponent play ...b6 in the Queen's Gambit, I immediately think "cxd5!" You don't want HIM to play dxc4 when his bishop is on b7 do you?> 7. cxd5 exd5 8. Bd3 Bb7 9. Qc2 h6 10. Bf4 <Like Topalov, I hate trading pieces> a6 11. Ne5 Rc8 
click for larger view<White to play and win. Do you see it? I didn't; I played 12.Qe2? but 12.Bxa6!! wins at once because 12...Bxa6 13.Nc6 smothers the black queen!> 12.Qe2? b5 <I suddenly realized I missed an outright win, and was kicking myself because I've seen that queen-smothering tactic 100 times before. But that's OK, there are other ways to try to win> 13.e4 c5 14.exd5 dxc4? 
click for larger view<White to play and win again! This time I saw the continuation.> 15.Nxf7! Kxf7 16.Qe6+ Kf8 17.Bg6 
click for larger view<There's nothing for Black to do. Being a blitz game, I can't criticize him for playing to the end> ...Bxd5 18. Nxd5 Bb4+ 19. Nxb4 Qe7 20. Bd6 Re8 21. O-O Qxd6 22. Qf7# 1-0 |
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Dec-31-06
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| notyetagm: An excellent D35 Black win featuring brilliant tactics based on a <WEAK BACK RANK>: [Event "Lippstadt"]
[Site ""]
[Date "1999.??.??"]
[Round "9"]
[White "McShane, Luke J"]
[Black "Mirumian, Vigen"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2465"]
[BlackElo "2505"]
[NIC "QO 11.10.15"]
[ECO "D35"]
[PlyCount "48"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Bg5 Nbd7 6. e3 c6 7. Bd3 Be7
8. Nge2 O-O 9. Qc2 Re8 10. O-O Nf8 11. a3 Ne4 12. Bxe7 Qxe7 13. Bxe4 dxe4
14. Ng3 f5 15. f3 exf3 16. Rxf3 Ng6 17. Re1 f4 18. Nge4 Qh4 19. Rf2 fxe3
20. Rxe3 Be6 21. Nd6 Qxd4 22. Rd3 Bc4 23. Rd1 Qxd6 24. Ne4 Rxe4
0-1
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Jan-01-07
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| who: After 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Bg5 Bb4
click for larger view
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I play 6.Qb3 with advantage as I can proceed 7.Bxf6 gxf6 (7...Qxf6 allows 8.Qxd5). Why does no one play this? |
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Jan-03-07
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| refutor: after 6.Qb3 Bxc3+ after either 7.bxc3 or 7.Qxc3 7. ...c6 looks good to me |
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Jan-04-07
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| who: Speaking in vague generalities after 6.Qb3 Bxc3 white has the bishop pair more central pawns/control and black's only remaining bishop is bad because of the c6 and d5 pawns. This all seems pretty attractive to me. |
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Jan-04-07
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| refutor: ah it's a nimzo indian at this point...people who play the nimzo aren't worried about things like the bishop pair. happy new year |
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Jan-04-07
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| acirce: 6..Nc6 then what? |
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| Jan-05-07 |
| hitman84: I'd play 6...Be7 White's Q is misplaced, the line advocated by refutor is a bit passive for black as white plays bc3, the threat c4. That is a great game posted by <notyetagm>. |
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| Jan-05-07 |
| hitman84: I agree with <acirce> 6...Nc6 is the best move. 6...Be7 is very interesting. Black sacrifices the center pawn to gain developmental advantage and a Bishop pair. 6...Be7 7.Bf6 Bf6 8. Qd5 < First I saw 8.Nd5 Bd4 9.Rd1 Bc5 and black's OK >
8...0-0 9.Nf3 < 9. Qd8 Rd8 10.e3 c5 with counterplay > 9...Nc6 10.Qd8 Rd8 11.e3 Nb4 with good play for black. 6...Nc6 is the logical move.
Nice find <who> 6.Qb3!? |
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Jan-05-07
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| who: 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Bg5 Bb4 6.Qb3 Nc6 7.e3 and now again I'm threatening 8.Bxc6 and 9.Qxd5. Just to elaborate Hitman's line after
After 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Bg5 Bb4 6.Qb3 Be7 7.Bxf6 Bxf6 8.Qxd5 black can't play 8...Bxd4 as 9.Qxd8+ Kxd8 10.0-0-0 wins. But to be honest I am not sure that 8...0-0 9.Qd8 Rd8 10.e3 c5 or 9.Nf3 Nc6 10.Qd8 Rd8 11.e3 Nb4 is enough compensation. |
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Jan-05-07
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| who: <Refutor> Incidentally, usually white needs to play a less useful move, a3, to force the trade of bishop for knight in the NID and also I'm not sure how often black just plays ...d5 without a forced trade of pawns in the NID as it seems to weaken his remaining bishop. As hitman pointed out if white wants the center back he always has c4 at his disposal. |
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| Jan-06-07 |
| hitman84: <who>My mistake..
<black can't play 8...Bxd4 as 9.Qxd8+ Kxd8 10.0-0-0 wins.> Once again 8...0-0 is the best try.I was thinking from white's perspective,
Nc6 is the best move for black but 5.Qb3 is a really good continuation! |
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| Jan-06-07 |
| Surrealist: <Refutor> It is nowhere near the NID. White plays the standard minority attack with bishop pair, one pair of pieces has been exchanged -> there is less chances for black's counter play... I would love to get the position with white pieces after 6...Bxc3 7. Qxc3 c6. |
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Jan-06-07
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| who: <hitman> no I understood you weren't recommending 8...Bxd4. I was just fleshing the point out for anyone else who might be quickly reading this conversation. |
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Jan-09-07
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| notyetagm: Kasparov exploits a simple DISCOVERED PIN down along the c-file to win material with 21 Nc3xd5!: [Event "Internet blitz 5'"]
[Site "Internet ICC"]
[Date "1998.05.24"]
[Round "0"]
[White "Kasparov,Garry"]
[Black "Serper,Grigory"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "D35"]
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Bg5 Be7 6.e3 0-0 7.Bd3 Nbd7 8.Nge2 Re8
9.0-0 Nf8 10.b4 a6 11.a3 c6 12.f3 Nh5 13.Bxe7 Rxe7 14.Qd2 f5 15.Rae1 Nf6 16.Nc1 Bd7
17.Bb1 Qc7 18.Nd3 Ng6 19.f4 Ne4 20.Qc1 Rf8 21.Nxd5 1-0 |
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