page 1 of 46; games 1-25 of 1,149  Game   Result Moves Year Event/Locale Opening 1. Lowenthal vs Brien / Wormald 1-0 23 1854 London C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 2. Blackburne vs Falkbeer 1-0 32 1864 London (England) C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 3. J Minckwitz vs E Schmidt   ½-½ 28 1865 Leipzig sim C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 4. S Rosenthal vs E Schmidt   1-0 29 1865 Leipzig sim C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 5. A Schliemann vs Beger   0-1 43 1866 Berlin C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 6. De Vere vs G B Fraser ½-½ 44 1867 Dundee C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 7. De Vere vs C Golmayo   1-0 33 1867 Paris C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 8. G Neumann vs S Rosenthal 1-0 38 1867 Paris C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 9. Max Lange vs W Paulsen 1-0 51 1868 WSB-07.Kongress C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 10. J Minckwitz vs Zukertort / Hoffer 1-0 55 1869 Barmen C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 11. Paulsen vs E Schallopp 1-0 70 1869 NSB-02.Kongress C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 12. S Mieses vs J Minckwitz   0-1 36 1869 Leipzig C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 13. S Mieses vs J Minckwitz   1-0 46 1869 Leipzig C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 14. J Minckwitz vs Lange 1-0 27 1869 Leipzig C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 15. Winawer vs Anderssen 0-1 35 1870 It C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 16. S Rosenthal vs Winawer   ½-½ 37 1870 Baden-Baden C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 17. A Stern vs J Minckwitz   1-0 31 1870 Baden-Baden + C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 18. C T Goering vs J Minckwitz   1-0 40 1870 Leipzig C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 19. Cordel / Minckwitz / et al vs Anderssen & Goring / et al 1-0 67 1871 Leipzig C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 20. S Mieses vs J Minckwitz   1-0 34 1871 Leipzig C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 21. S Mieses vs J Minckwitz   0-1 50 1871 Leipzig C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 22. J N Berger vs Gelbfuhs   0-1 26 1871 Vienna C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 23. J Minckwitz vs Anderssen & Goring / et al   0-1 37 1872 Leipzig C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 24. J Minckwitz vs Anderssen & Goring / et al 0-1 34 1872 Leipzig C80 Ruy Lopez, Open 25. De Vere vs Zukertort / Hoffer   ½-½ 37 1872 London C80 Ruy Lopez, Open  page 1 of 46; games 1-25 of 1,149    REFINE SEARCH:   White wins (1-0) | Black wins (0-1) | Draws (1/2-1/2)

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< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 3 OF 3 ·  Later Kibitzing > Sep-21-05    who: 5..Ne4 is exactly that! Sep-21-05    suenteus po 147: <johnwgoes> I just checked and found you are correct. My apologies in giving an unsatisfactory answer. Sep-22-05    who: <johnwgoes: I have castled! When I search for 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O, the following options are available: 5...Be7 8,474 33.8% 45.8% 20.5% <5...Ne4 1,676 35.7% 39.6% 24.7%>> it's just missing the X sign in Nxe4 Oct-30-05    Averageguy: Against the open I'm thinking of playing 6.Re1 Nf6 7.d4. What do you kibitzers think of that? Oct-30-05    Open Defence: <Averageguy: Against the open I'm thinking of playing 6.Re1 Nf6 7.d4. What do you kibitzers think of that?> Well it seems that the Black reply to consider most seriously is 6..Nc5 Oct-30-05    who: <acirce> why play 19...Kf7 in your main line? Oct-30-05    who: Moving either rook to d8 comes to mind as viable options. Oct-30-05    who: <Averageguy> I like to play the Riga variation against people rated higher than me. Either I get an easy draw with black, or I force them to show that they can convert a tiny initiative. If not I end up with a slight material advantage. Oct-30-05    acirce: <why play 19...Kf7 in your main line?> <Moving either rook to d8 comes to mind as viable options.> Sure, but I guess the king will have to move away from the centre anyway. Why/if it's really better to do it immediately instead of developing I cannot say. Oct-30-05    Johnox: 19...Rad8 is a sure equalizer! 19...Kf7 20.Ne5+ Kf6 21.Bd4 Kg5 22.Nf3+ Kg6 with a strong initiative for White e.g. 23.Bc2 h5 24.Nh4+! Kg5 25.Rf1!! winning if Black take the white knight. Nov-08-05    notyetagm: Could someone please post the line which makes 6 e1?! a dubious move? Glen Flear gives this move the ?! annotation in his book on the Open Spanish. Thanks. Nov-08-05    notyetagm: And could someone please tell me what exactly the Bernstein variation of the Open Spanish is? Thanks. Nov-08-05    WannaBe: <notyetagm> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/adam.b... Ruy is about 1/2 way down. Starting with move 9. Dec-01-05    soughzin: Does the open Ruy give, as its name suggests, a more open and tactical game than the closed? I've heard the closed involves more manuevering which at the present is not my strong point. Dec-01-05    tpstar: <soughzin> Yes, both more open and more tactical, however many believe Black's piece formation (Ne4/Nc6/Bc5/Be6) is somewhat loose giving White a positional advantage. Two of its greatest practitioners are Viktor Korchnoi and Artur Yusupov so look at their games for ideas and inspiration. =) Dec-05-05    Damodude: I'm a bit stuck here. After 6 d4 (..b5 7 Bb3) black should respond ..d5. I know this is obvious but, after 7 ..exd4, how is white to exploit the pin on the e4 knight? After Re1 d5 there doesn't seem to be an immediate way to break through. Any suggestions welcome... Dec-05-05    refutor: 7.Bb3 exd4 8.Re1 d5 9.Nc3 seems strong Dec-05-05    Damodude: isn't that just met with 9..dxc3 though? Dec-05-05    refutor: 10.Bxd5 looks good Dec-05-05    Damodude: aha! I geddit - thanks Mar-05-06    popski: I tryed this open thing today for very first time in blitz game, but something went terribly wrong... :/ 1.e4 e5 2.f3 c6 3.b5 a6 4.a4 f6 5.0-0 xe4 6.xe5?! (well, this move is out of the book, but I couldn't find anything better than:) 6... xe5 7.e1 f5 8.d3 b5 9.b3 b7 10.de4 fe4 and my poor was stuck in the middle... So, how to play against 6.xe5?! Mar-05-06    tpstar: <popski> I've never seen 6. Nxe5!? before either. Consider 6 ... Nxe5 7. Re1 Nc5 transposing to the 6. Re1 line after 8. Rxe5+ Be7 Opening Explorer I often see 6. Re1 from opponents under 2000, sometimes because they automatically expect 5 ... Be7, and also because they don't know the 6. d4 theory. Mar-06-06    popski: Thanks <tpstar>, yes this is much better than my 'invention' :) Aug-20-06    WTHarvey: Here are some traps n zaps from C80 miniatures: http://www.wtharvey.com/c80.html Sep-18-06    soughzin: How do you all get to the Open? I've heard the Berlin move order is best 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. 0-0 Nxe4 5. d4 a6 6. Ba5 b5 7. Bb3 d5 Or there's 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba5 b5 5. Bb3 Nf6 to avoid 5.d4 which can be annoying. (6.Ng5 doesn't work because of d5 and Nd4) And the usual move order given on the board of course. I dislike 6.Re1 since I feel like I outbooked my Ruy opponent but he/she still often gets a good game. Jump directly to page #    (enter number from 1 to 3) < Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 3 OF 3 ·  Later Kibitzing >

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