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Jul-10-08
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| Artar1: <whatthefat>:
I made the fix. Thanks! |
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Aug-08-08
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| kutztown46: <whatthefat>
I would appreciate you adding your thoughts to a discussion which starts here: kutztown46 chessforum Thanks! |
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| Aug-12-08 |
| Duck McCluck: On your committee idea, would it be laid out in the format as RV does? I think that is what the team is used to, and if there can be another page that summarizes a variation as clearly and succinctly as RandomVisitor's forum header, then it is much more likely to catch on. The problem with delivering summaries to the main page, is that after 25 kibitzes, the stuff gets shelved in archives. If you deliver summaries to a forum, then you can't arrange the order, you can't modify stuff, etc... I know I'm not a team leader, but I can give you honest input from a potential customer. Unless I felt that a move was very important, then it really wasn't worth the navigating between forums and main-page postings by the anti-forists and making sure some people dont post low-ply or low quality engine like crafty or natwarl. I think its great that you will be involved in the organization. You are cool tempered, and very great to deal with (as I've observed) you treat people with respect and I know you'll be dependable and hard-working on the GMAN2 game. Lucky to have those people that made the VIP lists, you appeared on all but 2. I got in the game late, but will be active from move-1 on our next endeavor. |
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Aug-12-08
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| whatthefat: <Duck McCluck>
Ideally, yes, I think updates to the summary should be in the forum header. <RandomVisitor>'s forum is an excellent model. I have some other ideas about how best to consolidate the information, which I'll post on in more detail as we get closer to the game. Thanks for the complimentary input, and I'll see you in the next game! |
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Aug-15-08
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| chancho: I don't know where or how many people played in the World vs Knudsen 2003. Knudsen's correspondence chess site:
http://www.correspondencechess.com/
He has an e-mail link in that site that you can use to ask him if you wish to know. |
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Aug-15-08
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| chancho: From the 365chess database:
http://www.365chess.com/tournaments... The World vs:
http://www.365chess.com/search_resu... |
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Aug-17-08
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| whatthefat: <chancho>
Thank you for that. |
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Aug-17-08
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| Open Defence: <whatthefat> I have updated some links in my forum header for the openings, as always your suggestions are needed and welcome :) |
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Aug-17-08
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| whatthefat: <Open Defence>
Thanks, I'll be sure to check it out! |
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Aug-19-08
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| Artar1: (19) Akobian,Varuzhan (2570) - Zambrana,Oswaldo (2511) [D45]
Cali Continental op 4th Cali (4), 10.07.2007
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 e6 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Qc2 Bd6 7.g4 h6 8.Bd2 Qe7 9.h3 is Aronian's favorite. 9...dxc4 10.Bxc4 b5 11.Be2 Bb7 12.e4!? is a novelty by Akobian. 12...e5 13.0–0–0
<[13.dxe5 Nxe5 14.Nh4 g6 15.f4 b4 16.0–0–0 bxc3 17.Bxc3 Nfd7 18.fxe5 Bxe5 19.Nf3 Bxc3 20.Qxc3 Black now faces the question as to where to put the king while defending the rook. 20...0–0–0 21.Rhe1 Kb8 22.Rd2 f6 23.Red1 Nb6 24.Rxd8+ Rxd8 25.Rxd8+ Qxd8 26.Qe3 Qe7 27.Nh4 g5 28.Nf5 Maybe a very slight edge for White.]> 13...b4 14.Na4 c5
<[14...exd4 15.Rhe1 0–0 16.Nxd4 Qxe4 17.Qxe4 Nxe4 18.Nf5 Bc7 19.Bxh6 Rfd8 20.Bc4 Nxf2 21.Rxd7 Rxd7 22.Nc5 Rad8 23.Be3 Nd3+ 24.Bxd3 Rxd3 25.Nxb7 Re8 26.Kc2 Rd5 27.Bf2 Rxe1 28.Bxe1  ]> 15.d5 Nb6
<[15...c4 16.Bxc4 Rc8 17.Be3 Ba6 18.b3 Bxc4 19.bxc4 Nc5 20.Nxc5 Bxc5 21.Bxc5 Rxc5 22.Nd2 Qc7 23.Kb1 Nd7 24.Rhg1 Nb6 25.Qb3 a5 26.g5 h5 27.g6 f6 28.Rc1 ]> 16.Bb5+ Kf8 17.Be3 [17.g5 hxg5 18.Bxg5 c4 19.Nxb6 axb6 20.Qxc4 Rc8 21.Bc6 Qe8 22.Kb1 Bxc6 23.dxc6 Rxc6 24.Qd3 ] 17...Rc8
<[17...Nxa4 18.Bxa4 c4 19.Qxc4 Rc8 20.Bc6 Qe8 21.Bc5 Bxc5 22.Qxc5+ Kg8 23.Kb1 Rxc6 24.dxc6 Qxc6 25.Rd8+ Kh7 26.Rxh8+ Kxh8 27.Qf8+ Kh7 28.Re1 ]> 18.Nd2 Nfd7 White now has a sizeable advantage.
19.Kb1
<[19.Nxb6 Nxb6 20.Nc4 Rc7 21.Kb1 Kg8 22.Nxd6 Qxd6 23.Rhf1 c4 24.f4 is also very good for White and may be better than the text move.]> 19...g6 Playing ...c4 may have been better.
<[19...c4 20.Nxc4 Nxc4 21.Bxc4 Ba6 22.b3 Bxc4 23.bxc4 Nc5 24.Nxc5 Bxc5 25.Bxc5 Qxc5 26.d6 Qxc4 27.Qxc4 Rxc4 28.Rc1 Rc3 29.Rxc3 bxc3 30.Rc1 g6 31.Rxc3 Kg7 32.f4 exf4 33.e5 Rd8 34.Rd3 Kf8 35.Kc2 g5 36.Rd4 Ke8 37.Kd3 Kd7 38.Ke4 ]> 20.Rc1 Kg7 21.Qd3
<[21.Nxb6 Nxb6 22.Nc4 Nxc4 23.Qxc4 a6 24.Ba4 a5 25.h4  ]> 21...Rc7 22.Rc2 Nxa4 23.Bxa4 Nb6 24.Bb5 Rhc8 25.h4 Ra8 26.Ba6 c4 27.Bxc4 Nxc4 28.Nxc4 Ba6 29.g5 h5 30.Rhc1 Rac8 31.Qb3 Bb5 32.a4 Bxc4 33.Rxc4 Qd7 34.Rxc7 Rxc7 35.Rxc7 Qxc7 36.Qc2 Qa5?! <[36...f6 37.Qxc7+ Bxc7 38.Bxa7 fxg5 39.hxg5 h4 40.f3 h3 41.Bg1 b3 42.Bh2 Kf7 43.Kc1  ]> 37.b3 a6 38.Qc6 Qc7 39.Qxc7 <[39.Qxa6 may be better.]> 39...Bxc7 40.Kc2 Bd8 41.f4 exf4 42.Bxf4 f6 43.gxf6+ Bxf6 44.Bg3 g5 45.e5 Bd8 46.hxg5 Bxg5 47.Kd3 1–0 |
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Aug-19-08
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| YouRang: Are you still working on your annotations for the Timmerman game? :-) |
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Aug-19-08
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| whatthefat: <YouRang>
Indeed I am! I've just been snowed under with work this week. I'll try to post the next part of the analysis today if I get time. |
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Aug-20-08
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| hms123: <whatthefat> I continue to marvel at your annotations for the GMT game--thanks as many times as is appropriate (which is a lot)--hms |
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Aug-20-08
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| sentriclecub: <<N.B. Part 8 includes a full analysis of 19...Qf6.>> excellent! Thats my only contribution to the game and I got worn out--its unbelievable how much time it takes to compete against RV! I had 3 laptops running 24/7 <<My most important thing i'd like to say that if we play 20. e3 first, then black can play Ne6 and now we lost our chance to put the knight on 20. Nd4If we play 20. Nd4 first, then odds are highly likely we get in 21. e3 on the very next move. If we follow Tabanus advice and play 20. e3 and then he plays Ne6, then this is how 21. Nd4 scores... 3. = (0.19): 21.Nd4 Nxd4 22.Rxd4 Qe7 23.Qxe7+ Rxe7 24.b3 Be8 25.Ne2 Kf6 26.Rd3 Ra6 27.Bxe4 fxe4 HOWEVER!!!
If we play 20. Nd4 first then here are Rybka's scores at super high nodecount <if 20. Nd4...Reb8> then 1. = (0.36): 21.e3 Rb7 22.Rc2 Nd6 23.b3 Ne4 24.Nxe4 fxe4 25.Bf1 a4 26.b4 Rab8 27.Rb1 Ra8 - - <if 20. Nd4...Rec8> then 4. ² (0.33): 21.e3 a4 22.f4 Nxc3 23.Rxc3 Rcb8 24.Bf1 Be8 25.Rc2 Rb6 26.Nf3 Ne6 27.Bg2 Qf8 - - <if 20. Nd4...Rf8> then 2. (0.72): 21.e3 Rfb8 22.Na4 Nb5 23.Nxb5 Rxb5 24.b3 Re8 25.f3 Qd6 26.Qxd6 Nxd6 27.Bf1 Rb4 28.Nc5 - - <if 20. Nd4...a4> then 2. ² (0.42): 21.e3 Rec8 22.f4 Qd6 23.Nxe4 Qxa3 24.bxa3 dxe4 25.Nxc6 Bxc6 26.Rxc6 Nb5 27.Rd7+ Kh6 - - It is clear that by playing 20. e3 first, we give GMT better choices and let him get in moves which make it no longer as profitable to play Nd4. If we play Nd4 first, we force GMT to let us get in e3 or better on the next move but at a higher eval and much more favorable position. Also know that I have contributed to ever section of Zanshin's forum analyzing EVERY reply to Nd4 and to e3 and everything gets slippery if we play 20. e3 before 20. Nd4. By playing 20. Nd4 first, we give him NO FLEXIBILITY! which is the main reason to wait one more move on 21. e3, but lets consider 20. Nd4 first. All my data is from User: zanshin (see the kibitzing area for the 20. e3 stuff which is inferior to all the lines we worked on with 20. Nd4)> > |
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Aug-20-08
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| sentriclecub: <whatthefat>
This is the stuff that wont fit into my forum header. My forum header is 100% 19...Qf6 20. Nd4 and a section on 19...Qf6 20. Rc2 - - ===================
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click for larger view<> <> :EVAL 1: ( 24 ply : Rybka 2.3.2 : 4321 mNodes ) submitted by Sentriclecub 1. = (0.25): 21.Na4 Reb8 22.b3 Ra7 23.Nd4 Nxd4 24.Rxd4 Qd6 25.Nc5 Rb5 26.Qb2 Qf6 27.Nd3 Kg8 2. = (0.23): 21.Rc2 Kg8 22.Na4 Rab8 23.Ne1 Qe7 24.Qxe7 Rxe7 25.Nd3 Nd8 26.Nac5 Kg7 27.h4 Nxc5 3. = (0.19): 21.Nd4 Nxd4 22.Rxd4 Qe7 23.Qxe7+ Rxe7 24.b3 Be8 25.Ne2 Kf6 26.Rd3 Ra6 27.Bxe4 fxe4 4. = (0.17): 21.Ne1 Qe7 22.Qxe7+ Rxe7 23.Nd3 a4 24.Ne5 Nf6 25.f4 Be8 26.Rd2 Ra6 27.Kf2 Ng4+ 5. = (0.16): 21.Ne2 Nd8 22.Nf4 Nf7 23.b3 Nc3 24.Rd2 Ne4 25.Rdc2 Kg8 26.Rd1 Kg7 27.Rdc1 Kg8 <> <> :EVAL 2: (:PLY:ENGINE:NODECOUNT) submitted by <> <> <> <> <> <> :EVAL 3: (:PLY:ENGINE:NODECOUNT) submitted by <> <> <> <> <Strength/Weakness analysis> empty <End of Section V 20. e3...Ne6> - =========Section VI Analysis of 19...Qf6 20. e3...Rec8======= Section VI 20. e3...Rec8
click for larger view<> <> :EVAL 1: ( 23 ply : Rybka 2.3.2 : 5172 mNodes ) submitted by Sentriclecub 1. ² (0.42): 21.Nd4 a4 22.f4
2. = (0.25): 21.Na4 Nb5 22.Qd3 Rcb8 23.b3 g5 24.Ne1 g4 25.Bxe4 fxe4 26.Qd2 Ra7 27.Nc5 Bf5 3. = (0.23): 21.Ne1 Nd6 22.Bf1 Ra7 23.Nf3 Ne4 24.Nd4 Ne6 25.b4 Nxd4 26.Rxd4 Nxc3 27.Rxc3 Rca8 4. = (0.19): 21.Bf1 Ne6 22.Nd4 Nxd4 23.Rxd4 Re8 24.Nxe4 fxe4 25.Ra4 Reb8 26.b3 Rf8 27.Rc2 Qd8 5. = (0.18): 21.h4 Ra7 22.Nd4 Ne6 23.Nxe6+ Bxe6 24.Ne2 Bd7 25.Bxe4 fxe4 26.Nd4 Rb7 27.Rd2 a4 <> <> :EVAL 2: (:PLY:ENGINE:NODECOUNT) submitted by <> <> <> <> <> <> :EVAL 3: (:PLY:ENGINE:NODECOUNT) submitted by <> <> <> <> <Strength/Weakness analysis> empty <End of Section VI 20. e3...Rec8> |
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Aug-20-08
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| sentriclecub: If you use anything from my meticulous notes on 19...Qf6, then I'll feel so thrilled! Be sure to check out my forum header. Its loaded! |
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Aug-20-08
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| whatthefat: <sentriclecub>
Excellent, thank you! I'll be sure to review your analysis and compare it to my own notes before I post mine. |
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Aug-20-08
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| whatthefat: <hms123>
I'm really glad you're enjoying them, thank you. It's taking quite a while to compile all the analysis that the team produced, so it's satisfying to hear that others feel the end result is worth it. |
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Aug-21-08
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| zanshin: <whatthefat> I have links to all your analysis posts in my header. Great job! Can't wait for the wiki article. |
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Aug-21-08
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| whatthefat: <zanshin>
Thank you! It'll probably take a little while yet for me to annotate the whole game, but I'll keep working away at it in my spare time. |
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Aug-25-08
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| kutztown46: <whatthefat>
As I'm sure you have seen, your Summarizing Committee is complete. I'm really looking forward to seeing the committee's work! What are your thoughts on when to start? At the same time we turn on the temporary forums, or sooner? |
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Aug-25-08
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| whatthefat: <kutztown46>
Great work, thank you! I'd think the summarizing committee will need to go into full swing towards the end of the opening. The opening to middlegame transition is a critical point for the production of summaries. I'd like to therefore get the committee organized and begin discussions in this forum in the coming days. |
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Aug-26-08
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| hms123: <whatthefat> I am still following the analysis of GMT with interest--continuing thanks--hms |
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Sep-03-08
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| whatthefat: Repertoire Explorer: Zdenko Kozul (black) |
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Sep-08-08
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| whatthefat: Opening Explorer |
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