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Jul-01-06 |
| offramp: The first parst of Rashid Gibiatovich Nezhmetdinov 's surname is Nezhmet and kismet means 'destiny'. |
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Jul-01-06 |
| FENfiend: Can anybody remember the historical anecdote surrounding 'kismet' and 'kiss me charlie'? |
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Jul-01-06 |
| DAL9000: This is actually the first game I ever commented on, 'round about a year ago. I've come a long way since then, albeit not nearly long enough to understand what's going on in this game. I did spend a while playing through it again, though, and this time around I realized something I would never have picked up on last year: 19... Be6 is actually an incredibly logical move-- if you have the stones to play it. Black's behind in development, he's completely committed to a K-side attack, and because A) the game would basically be over if Black could play Be3+, B) White's Nd5 is stopping that, and C) ... Be6 threatens to remove the Nd5, Black's Knight on e5 is perfectly safe. Figuring out WTF Black should do when White's K runs for f2 /after/ 19... Be6, on the other hand... yikes. That's well beyond my powers. Amazing game. |
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Oct-05-06
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| aazqua: 13. F3??? That guy deserved to get dunked for that passive nonsense. |
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Oct-06-06 |
| hitman84: White played a pathetic game. Nice finish by black. |
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Oct-06-06
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| keypusher: <al wazir> <whatthefat> <arturo rivera> Here's the earlier game associated with an anecdote that a player allegly refused a draw so he could force one later: H Wolf vs Rubinstein, 1907
For the reasons stated on the comments to that game, I doubt the anecdote is true of the Rubinstein game. On the other hand, Tal recounts the anecdote about the Tal-Benko game himself in his autobiography, and apologizes for his conduct, noting that he was only 22 years old at the time. |
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Nov-12-06
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| ketchuplover: null?????????????? gimme a frickin break :( |
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Jan-17-07 |
| wolfking: I'm really new at chess and i wanted to ask something: 1- When a player sacrifices a piece and eventually mates or wins material, is it because he sees "a position" some moves after where he needs only some pieces to win so he sacrifices or uses the other ones to reach such position?? 2- Is there any way I can exercise my sight so that I can see a "clear image" of the board 5/6/7 moves further?? Because I can only see 2 or 3 moves ahead... Thx for your help! |
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Jan-17-07
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| WannaBe: <wolfking> From a relatively new player to another... <1- When a player...> Well, now, if you win material, it's really not a sacrifice. =) But in general yes, the wanted result is to have your opponent move the piece(s) into a position that is desired/sought. And if you opponent sees your plan, and does not accept the sacrifice, then you've gained material. <2- How can I...>
Time, practice, play more games, see/recognize pattern that you have encountered. Personally, I've found tactics book/puzzle helpful. |
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Jan-22-07
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| whiskeyrebel: wolfking, may I add this..as you improve with time there are plenty of nice deep studies to look forward to on topics such as attacking patterns, board vision and "intuitive" sacrifices made by gamblers such as old Nezh here. In a nutshell, the most aggressive masters don't always calculate to a clear victory. Most do to a great extent though. Some hardly ever take material risks unless they're really in trouble. |
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Jan-24-07 |
| wolfking: Thanks for the help. About the material risk... isn't it often a good play a minor piece sac. to open lines in a closed game or something like that?? Because I often see games with "Knight takes pawn" sacrifices". Also... do you calculate from the very first moves?? For example, the first move after you are playing "out of book"?? |
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Mar-24-07 |
| Rubenus: Is Rxh2 forced or can white take the rook on f4? |
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Jun-19-07
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| LIFE Master AJ: I just finished a MASSIVE update to my pages for this game ... start at the link given. (http://www.geocities.com/lifemaster...) Tuesday; June 19th, 2007. (2:21 AM, CST) |
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Aug-05-07 |
| stanleys: <aazqua:> <13. F3??? That guy deserved to get dunked for that passive nonsense.> 13.f3 is the best option here - it fortifies the center and prevents a possible ...Ng4 or ...f4-f3 |
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Nov-10-07
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| Cactus: <wolfking> No, not every move. Often the play isn't very sharp, so a player can make a move without knowing 5 moves down the line, simply because the move is obviously good. |
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Feb-06-08 |
| arsen387: <Rubenus: Is Rxh2 forced or can white take the rook on f4?> That's the real question. If yes than it's one of the best games I've ever seen, else it's just a nice attack. After a loooong calculation I came up with some conclusions. What could white do instead of taking the Q. Take the rook. There are 2 possibilities: 25.NxR or 25.PxR. NxR is obviously weaker bcz the continuation after that move could be 25.Nxf4 Qxg3+ 26.Ke2(if Kd2 then Bxf4+ then again Ke2) Qf3+ 27.Ke1 Qxh1 then exchanging the queens and taking the white knight (Bxf4) blacks are up a piece and winning. Situation is harder if 25.gxf4. The best I see for blacks is 25...Bxf4+ 26.Nxf4 Qg3+ and the same as in previous line with the difference that now black isn't a piece up but his g and h pawns are very strong and (maybe) passing. Please correct me if I don't see smth.
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Feb-06-08 |
| M.D. Wilson: This is a great game. Nezh had a powerful centre, and the pieces, mainly the centralised knights, to beat Polou without his queen. The black bishop turned out to be perfectly placed. |
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Feb-06-08 |
| stanleys: <arsen387> <Situation is harder if 25.gxf4. The best I see for blacks is 25...Bxf4+ 26.Nxf4 Qg3+> There is a better option: 26...Nxc2+ and black is winning. That's why 20.Bc2 was called "the decisive mistake" (20.Bb1 was better),but try to calculate all this on move 20! |
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Feb-11-08 |
| arsen387: thanks <stanleys>. I completely missed that move. Nxc2 is really a killer move here! |
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Feb-16-08
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| DarthStapler: Just saying again how much I love this game |
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Jul-26-08
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| Fusilli: <wolfking: ... Is there any way I can exercise my sight so that I can see a "clear image" of the board 5/6/7 moves further?? Because I can only see 2 or 3 moves ahead...> Practice makes perfect, or at least helps improving your calculation ability. My advice is to always keep in mind that, as you calculate, pieces not only move to different squares, but *are no longer in the squares where they were*. The former is the easiest thing to see, the latter is the difficult part. In particular, I have found pawns to be very tricky... we tend to overlook that pawns that capture no longer protect the squares they used to protect, and that pawns that move (for example, capturing a sacrificed attacking piece) often free up a square for the defending king. I think we tend to see pawns as fixed in place for ever... just my 2 cents, based on personal experience. |
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Aug-14-08 |
| Alphastar: <stanleys: 13.f3 is the best option here - it fortifies the center and prevents a possible ...Ng4 or ...f4-f3> GM Beim disagrees. He considers that black could've obtained the advantage with 14. ..Be3+! 15. Kh1 f4 followed by g5-g4. Because of this, 13. exf5 gxf5 14. Nge2 f4 15. f3 Nxd3 16. Qxd3 = is a better option. He also has some things to say on 24. a3!?
I will post it tomorrow because it's getting late. |
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Aug-15-08 |
| Alphastar: GM Beim in <How to Calculate Chess Tactics>: <<24. Rh1>Both of our featured annotators (Nezhmetdinov and Dvoretsky) passed by this moment as if it goes without saying, but one is reminded of the old rule, formulated most clearly and in his own blunt way, by Korchnoi: "All obvious moves look dubious in analysis after the game". This rule suggests that we should nto be in too much of a hurry to accept the move played, but should look for other ideas for the losing side. In particular, let us look at the position in detail, something which one should do every once in a while, even in extremely sharp and complicated positions. Such a survey of the position allows the player temporarily to shake off the fever of hard calculation, and it sometimes results in his seeing new, interesting and often unexpected ideas in the position. Thus, looking as it were from the side, we soon find 24. a3!? with the following variations: a) 24. ..Qh3?! and now White has two ways to obtain the advantage: a1) 25. axb4 Bxf4+ 26. Nxf4 (now Black won't gain time with ..Qf3+; after 26. Rxf4? Rxf4 27. Qh1 [27. Nxf4 Qxg3+ 28. Ke2 Qf3+ 29. Ke1 Qg3+ 30. Kd2 Qxf4+ favours black] 27. ..Rf3+ 28. Kd2 Rf2 Black is certainly not worse) 26. ..Rxf4 (26. ..Qxg3+ 27. Kd2!?) 27. Rxf4 Qxg3+ 28. Ke2 Qxf4+ is somewhat better for White. a2) White can also play 25. Kd2!? with the follow-up 25. ..Nf3+ 26. Kc1 Nxc2 27. Kxc2 Qg2 28. Rh1 Bg7 29. Bxg7 Kxg7 30. Qf1 Nd4+ 31. Kd3 Qxf1 32. Raxf1 Nxb3 33. Rh4 and this ending turns out to be advantegeous for White. b) But Black has another option, namely 24. ..Nxc2+ 25. Qxc2 Qh3, and here: b1) 26. Bxe5?! dxe5 27. Rh1 and then:
b11) 27. ..exf4+ 28. Kd3 Qg2 29. Rxh6 f3 30. Nf4 Qxg3 31. Nh5 Qe5 32. Qc3 Qxc3+ 33. Kxc3 f2 34. Rf1! Rf3+ 35. Kd4 Raf8 36. Re6! is good for White. b12) 27. ..Bxf4+ 28. Kd3 Qg2 29. gxf4+ Qf3+ 30. Kc4 c6 31. fxe5 b5+! 32. Kc5 Qe3+ 33. Nd4 cxd5 with a likely draw. b13) 27. ..Rxf4! (Nunn) 28. Kd3 Rf3+ 29. Kc4 Qg2 30. Rxh6 Re3 might give black some advantage. b2) 26. Kd2! Nf3+ (26. ..Qg2 27. Rad1 with clear advantage) 27. Kd3 Qg3 28. Rh1 Bg7 (28. ..Re8 29. Rxh6 Rxe4 30. Qd1! Rfe7 31. Re6) 29. Bxg7 Kxg7 30. Kc3 . Incidentally, with the king on e3, 24. Bb1!? is also interesting. So it turns out that White's 24th move was the decisive mistake. In view of the fact that the alternative examined above leads to at least an acceptable game for White, it follows firstly that the criticism of White's 20th move is unfounded (Dvoretsky and Nezhmetdinov both labeled this the losing move), and secondly, that Black's decision at move 14 was mistaken, and lost the chance to obtain the advantage by force. In addition, at move 20, he could have forced a favourable ending. It is also clear that in such a complicated position as that which arose in the game, one cannot reach an accurate judgement without detailed calculation of variations and relying solely on general positional considerations.> |
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Oct-01-08 |
| CharlesSullivan: <Alphastar> Your analysis is very provocative -- after White's 29th move in the "b2) 26.Kd2!" variation this critical position is reached after White's 29.Bxg7:
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Although you give 29...Kxg7 30.Kc3 and assign White a small advantage, Rybka considers the position to be dead-even after 30...Kg8; for example: 31.Rh6 Re8 32.Re6 Rfe7 33.Rxe7 Rxe7 34.Nd4 Qxc2+ 35.Nxc2 Rxe4 36.Kd3 Re7 37.Rh1=. However, a stronger move is (from the above diagram) <29...Re8!>, postponing the recapture of the bishop and threatening 30...Rxd4! Now White's best line is the following: 31.Kc3! Rxg7 32.Rad1 Qf2 33.e5! <White's 33rd and 34th moves prepare the stunning 35th> 33...dxe5 34.d6 cxd6 and Black would have a big advantage in this position
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except White has 35.Rxh7!! Rxh7 36.Qg6+ Kf8 37.Qxd6+ Kg7 38.Qd7+ Kf8 39.Qd6+ and White's queen forces a perpetual check. |
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Oct-01-08 |
| CharlesSullivan: A correction: the threat after 29...Re8! is, of course, 30...Rxe4! (not 30...Rxd4). |
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