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Jan-31-06
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| tamar: <lostthefight> #8 a4 is a pitchout |
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Feb-04-06 |
| BIDMONFA: Jackson W Showalter SHOWALTER, Jackson W.
http://www.bidmonfa.com/showalter_j...
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Sep-24-06 |
| Nikita Smirnov: Wow four times American Championships winner.And who won after him?
Mostly possible i think is Marshall. |
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Sep-24-06
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| Phony Benoni: <Bishop Berkeley> I would love to believe that that Showalter invented the curve ball, but the facts seem to disprove this. Fred Goldsmith gave a public demonstration of the curve ball in 1870, when Showalter was only ten years old. Candy Cummings is credited by many sources with having used it even earlier. The source you give simply states that Showalter invented the curve ball without giving any references or proof. |
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Sep-24-06 |
| Nikita Smirnov: Showalter may not have been a real person or? |
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Sep-27-06
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| Resignation Trap: For a good article about Showalter's correspondence career, go here: http://www.correspondencechess.com/... . |
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Oct-29-06 |
| Nikita Smirnov: Can chessgames fix and change W to Whipps.Then it will be Jackson Whipps Showalter. |
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Nov-23-06
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| Phony Benoni: Then all we would need is a game that Showalter lost to someone named Jackson, and we could kibitz "Jackson Whipps Showalter". |
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Dec-31-06 |
| Nikita Smirnov: Good idea! |
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May-25-08 |
| Ziggurat: Steinitz is supposed to have said, "Showalter is one of the six people in the world from whom I would accept a cigar." |
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Jul-21-08
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| rookhouse: That is a very true statement. I am currently writing a book on Showalter and I've come across that quote in several sources. |
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Aug-23-08
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| Joshka: Think wikipedia states he was one of the first seven pitchers to use the curve ball. Anyway, didn't know he started out as a ball player!!!...interesting news!!...first seven in Kentucky. |
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Aug-23-08
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| Joshka: I have the 10th Edition of The Baseball Encyclopedia, and there is no mention of Jackson pitching or hitting. So he maybe was just a minor league player, if they even had minor leagues back in the 1880's or so? |
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Apr-05-09
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| rookhouse: During my Showalter research for the book, I recently came across one of the games in which Showalter's wife (Nellie) defeated Lasker in a knight's odds game. She actually won the match against Lasker in this format in 1893. |
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Apr-11-09 |
| chessman95: <tamar: Showalter Baseball Pitch Equivalents: 1. e4 is a fastball.
2 d4 is a curveball.
3. Nf3 is a change-up.
4. b3 is a knuckleball.
5 c4 is a slider.
6. f3 is the slow arcing "eephus pitch"
Others?>
Na3 is a balk. |
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Apr-13-09
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| tamar: chessman95: <Na3 is a balk.> That's true, it looks like a pick-off throw to third base. 1 e2-h6 is a wild pitch. Or any move where the pawn ends up on the carpet. 1 Na3 Na6 2 Nb1 Nb8 is the rain-out. |
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Apr-14-09
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| rookhouse: Few people realize that Showalter was one of the better match players of that era and Lasker even referred to him as the best player he had ever played against following their match in 1893. His results in international tournaments hurt his legacy to a degree, but there were many games that he lost (in winning positions) due to the aggressive nature of his play. He defeated Janowski, Albin, Judd, Hodges, and Lipschutz in match play (just to name a few) and actually led Pillsbury late in thier 1897 match before losing by a slim margin (10-8). |
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Apr-14-09
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| rookhouse: The last international tournament that he played in was Cambridge Springs 1904, where he placed 5th out of 16 in one of the strongest tournaments ever on American soil. Even at the age of 45 he was able to score victories over the likes of Chigorin, Mieses, and Pillsbury. He also achieved an impressive draw with the black pieces against world champion Emanuel Lasker in the 14th round: Lasker vs Showalter, 1904 |
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Apr-15-09 |
| DCP23: <rookhouse: Even at the age of 45 he was able to score victories over the likes of Chigorin> No kiddin'. Did you know that Chigorin was 10 years older than Showalter? So when Showalter was "even at the age of 45" Chigorin was actually at the age of 55? Huh? |
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Apr-16-09
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| rookhouse: <DCP23> Yes, I did know that. I have been researching this era of chess for quite a while. The point I was simply trying to make was that at the age of 45, (and being inactive for approx. four years to that point) Showalter still showed that he could play with the best in the world. It definitely wasn't a dig on Chigroin. If you read my profile, Chigorin is actually one of my favorite players of all time. |
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Apr-18-09 |
| DCP23: <rookhouse> Ok, sorry about that. We need more members like yourself here, who actually do know some chess history. |
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Apr-18-09
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| rookhouse: <DCP23> No problem. I am actually a couple of years into research on Showalter specifically, as I am writing a book on his life and games. That particular era of chess is really fascinating.
John Hilbert, who has helped me out with some of my research, recently came out with a great book on Albert Hodges. I highly recommend it for anyone interested in chess history. http://www.amazon.com/Albert-Beaure... |
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May-19-09 |
| myschkin: . . .
The 1897 Franklin - Manhattan Chess Club Telegraphic Team Match "... The New York team in fact benefited from the delay in starting the match. According to the Eagle, Showalter, their star player, had only arrived the night before from Georgetown, Kentucky. Showalter “caused considerable anxiety by failing to put in an appearance at the time for which the match was scheduled to being. The ex-champion, who is noted for his tardiness, had overslept himself and arrived at the hall just in time to be included among the competitors.” (by John S. Hilbert)
http://www.chessarch.com/excavation... |
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May-19-09
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| MaxxLange: he looks a little like Nietzsche |
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May-19-09 |
| myschkin: . . .
That's very unlike him: http://nietzsche.is.uni-sb.de/pers/... :) |
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