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Sep-22-08 |
| VaselineTopLove: <I guess at any point talking about Vishy's chances against Kramnik, we HAVE TO REMEMBER who was the person who beat Kasparov???> Who was the person that beat Kramnik in a match??? --> Shirov, Kamsky Now who beat Shirov in the FIDE Finals & Kamsky in PCA??? --> Anand
So what can we infer from all these statements? |
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Sep-22-08
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| suenteus po 147: <So what can we infer from all these statements?> Anand beat Shirov and Kamsky who beat Kramnik who beat Kasparov who beat Anand who beat Shirov and Kamsky who beat Kramnik who beat Kasparov who beat Anand beat Shirov and Kamsky who beat Kramnik who beat Kasparov who beat Anand beat Shirov and Kamsky who beat Kramnik who beat Kasparov who beat Anand beat Shirov and Kamsky who beat Kramnik who beat Kasparov who beat Anand beat Shirov and Kamsky who beat Kramnik who beat Kasparov who beat Anand beat Shirov and Kamsky who beat Kramnik who beat Kasparov who beat Anand beat Shirov and Kamsky who beat Kramnik who beat Kasparov who beat Anand...shall I go on? |
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Sep-22-08 |
| vanytchouck: <VaselineTopLove:
Who was the person that beat Kramnik in a match??? --> Shirov, Kamsky
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And Guelfand (1996 F.I.D.E cycle).
One can mention Adams (= 2 & - 2 in tie break) in the 1999 Las Vegas world "cheapionship". |
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Sep-23-08 |
| The Rocket: "Who was the person that beat Kramnik in a match??? --> Shirov, Kamsky Now who beat Shirov in the FIDE Finals & Kamsky in PCA??? --> Anand
So what can we infer from all these statements?"
That Kramniks playing streight from 1998 to 2000 change radically. |
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Sep-23-08
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| micartouse: It should be mentioned that Kamsky defeated Anand in match play. Well actually tied him and then won on rapid tiebreaks in the 1994 FIDE Candidates. It's interesting that the match took place in India and Kamsky had a 2 point deficit, but had a great comeback. In general, Kamsky seems to be a superb match player and has a great OTB record against Anand. |
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Sep-23-08
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| chancho: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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Sep-23-08
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| chancho: Prior to Elista, Topalov's image was pristine,(may still be to some) but after losing his title, something has definitely happened to him. I can't see Anand showing that kind of bitterness if he loses. He'll probably flash that big smile of his, and go back to what he loves doing, no regrets. Not surprising really, Anand is a class act. Always has been. |
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Sep-23-08
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| you vs yourself: <In general, Kamsky seems to be a superb match player and has a great OTB record against Anand.> It seems that way because of his 2 wins in '06 but Anand actually has a +4 or +5 edge against Kamsky in classical games. |
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Sep-23-08 |
| yalie: <you vs yourself: <In general, Kamsky seems to be a superb match player and has a great OTB record against Anand.>
It seems that way because of his 2 wins in '06 but Anand actually has a +4 or +5 edge against Kamsky in classical games.
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Really? That is surprising! I vaguely remember thinking about this and maybe checking on it sometime before, but if it is that big I ought to have remembered. |
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Sep-23-08
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| Whack8888: Kamsky is definately an interesting player, having been at the top (rated 3rd in the world for a while) and then giving up chess for 10 years. Recently, it seems like he still 'has it' but sometimes he also plays sloppily. In his match with Topalov, it is unwise to underestimate Kamsky's chances; if he is diligently preparing and shaking off his rust, he is probably as good as anyone these days (similar to Ivanchuk and Morozevich, but Kamsky is more consistently bad than either of those two). |
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Sep-23-08
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| you vs yourself: <Really? That is surprising!> I just checked and it's +4 for Anand after this tournament http://www.mtelmasters06.com/en/ana... |
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Sep-23-08 |
| yalie: <Whack8888: Kamsky is definately an interesting player, having been at the top (rated 3rd in the world for a while) and then giving up chess for 10 years. Recently, it seems like he still 'has it' but sometimes he also plays sloppily. In his match with Topalov, it is unwise to underestimate Kamsky's chances; if he is diligently preparing and shaking off his rust, he is probably as good as anyone these days (similar to Ivanchuk and Morozevich, but Kamsky is more consistently bad than either of those two).> There is no doubt Team Topalov will win the novelty battle. If Kamsky can somehow get playable positions after those novelties, I think he will outplay Topalov easily. Topalov's middle and endgame prowess are probably only 2700 level. I recall Kramnik saying something similar about Topalov some time ago. But he makes up for it with creativity and a lot of work on the openings, not to mention having probably the best second in the business in Cheparinov. |
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Sep-23-08 |
| yalie: < you vs yourself: <Really? That is surprising!> I just checked and it's +4 for Anand after this tournament http://www.mtelmasters06.com/en/ana... > wasnt doubting ya. more like, how come I didnt remember? That said, I like how you actually came back with a nice authoritative source. great job. |
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Sep-23-08
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| notyetagm: <square dance: we all expect topalov to get in a cheapo on kramnik every now and then(and vice versa), but criticizing anand based on his world ranking is idiotic beyond even what i would expect from topalov/danailov. anand has been one of the most consistent players in chess history. sure, he's had his relative ups and downs, but he's remained in the top 3 for something like 12 consecutive years. topalov typically cant go 12 consecutive days without playing like a 2500 for some stretch. and when he does he wants to make sure everybody knows about it. this guy is soooooo likeable.> Yes, I thought Topalov *might* start getting his fan base back after his outstanding result at Bilbao, but then he has to go and shoot his mouth off again. No class at all. |
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Sep-23-08 |
| yalie: So is Yuri Vasiliev close to Kramnik? I remember Mig called him a Kramnik mouthpiece. If so, it might explain some of Topalov's comments. |
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Sep-23-08 |
| Petrosianic: <square dance> <we all expect topalov to get in a cheapo on kramnik every now and then(and vice versa), but criticizing anand based on his world ranking is idiotic beyond even what i would expect from topalov/danailov.> Not me. He had no legitimate reason to go after Kramnik, so why should it be a surprise that he'd also go after Anand without a legitimate reason? This is Topalov we're talking about. <anand has been one of the most consistent players in chess history... topalov typically cant go 12 consecutive days without playing like a 2500 for some stretch.> Yes, as usual the joke is on him. Even his comment that a match involving the #5 player couldn't be that interesting is another foot-in-mouther. That's exactly the same rank that Topalov himself holds now, and will hold until October 1. |
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Sep-24-08 |
| yalie: Is tere any good analysis of Anand-Kramnik Petroff from this year's Corus? This is the only one I'm aware of.
http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp... |
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Sep-24-08
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| notyetagm: <yalie: < notyetagm: World Champion Anand has just won the <BEST GAME PRIZE> for Chess Informant 101 for his *brilliant* win over Aronian at the 2007 Mexico City World Chess Championship tournament. Aronian vs Anand, 2007 http://www.chesscafe.com/informant/...
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personally I preferred Anand-Morozevich since it was not just a homecooked novelty prepared by a second, but just wonderfully creative OTB chess. It was courageous chess by Anand which defied pragmatism.> Actually I really liked Morozevich-Sakaev from the Russian Super-Final. |
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Sep-24-08 |
| yalie: <Viswanathan Anand on Humpy’s loss I was quite sad to see Humpy exiting in the semi-finals. I was actually following the final tie-break, live. After the first classic game that ended badly she managed to win the second game. This really shows she has a lot of determination in her. When it came to shorter time controls there is an element of gamble and things can go wrong. From personal experience I can tell you that when you play tie breaks the advantage you have with an opponent keeps diminishing as time controls get shorter. I think Humpy played very good chess and clearly she has done a lot of work. She should just forget Nalchik, take a break from chess and enjoy the ECC in Greece. Knockouts are different from tournaments and require a different kind of play as one mistake can be costly and then there is no looking back. I don't think she should feel the pressure, rather she should be fairly confident that all the work she has done would help her in the next event. Sometimes, when you are not chasing something with obsession you suddenly find yourself winning it.
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http://sify.com/sports/others/fulls... |
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Sep-24-08 |
| yalie: <notyetagm> I dont recall Moro's game with Sakaev. Have to see it. |
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Sep-24-08 |
| yalie: nice review of the Vishy DVDs
I always thought Vishy resigned ini 6 moves against Zapata out of respect for hios opponent - looks like the guy was ctually trying to avoid being a losing stock. <Anand does not shy away from presenting his losses, and he discusses several of them. Perhaps most embarrassing for him was the game Zapata-Anand, Biel-B, 1988 (when Anand was already a grandmaster) in which the game was over in an incredible six moves. 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4, producing the following position:<figure>
Anand notes that his opponent had previously played 5.c4 in this position, for which Anand had prepared 5…Be7 6.Nc3 Bf5. In this game, however, Zapata played 5.Nc3, to which Anand responded 5…Bf5 without much thought. “But a few seconds later,” he says, “6.Qe2 dawned on me, and Alonso as well was really shocked. I think he thought that a strong grandmaster could not play such a move, so he sat there calculating himself.” The point is that after 6.Qe2 Qe7 7.Nd5 Qd8 8.d3 wins the black knight at e4. “And now I had the choice,” Anand says, “which was to just make my move, play a piece down for another twenty moves so that none of these magazines could publish it as a miniature, and you don’t need to be reminded for the rest of your life that you lost a game in six moves. But that would mean that my fellow players in the tournament hall might come by and notice that I’m a piece down and start laughing … So I decided to go for Plan B, which was to resign and then get out of the hall as quickly as possible, so that nobody would notice. This worked successfully – for many days people thought I had agreed to a short draw with Alonso – a very short draw.” >
http://www.chesscafe.com/Reviews/bo...
MOre interestingly, he talks about the turning point of his match against Kasparov: <In Anand’s 1995 world championship match with Kasparov, the first eight games were drawn. The ninth game was won by Anand, and he provides extensive annotations. The game is interesting in itself, but Anand has some remarkable comments about what occurred the following day for the tenth game:“He was so excited and so nervous. He was huffing and puffing. I wish I had had the agility to change my preparation.” Anand had come prepared with his Spanish again, “but clearly this was what he had prepared for … Perhaps if things had stabilized, I would have put on a much better show.” Instead, “I fell right into his preparation … The next day, with the initiative firmly on his side, I turned down a draw unnecessarily. It wasn’t that I was that ambitious – I wanted to make a solid draw – but I didn’t want to concede that easily. In a slightly better position, I blundered and lost the game. After that, my match pretty much went downhill. But at least it was a useful experience.” Regarding Kasparov, Anand says, “You can often read his emotions in his face. If he thinks a move is bad, you’ll know it right away.” > |
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