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- schrutefan, on 07/23/2010, -11/+370Non-issue. Get an iPhone 4.
Steve - markusv3000, on 07/23/2010, -6/+246This is soooooooooooo true. My phone is so buggy and slow with the new OS. it sucks.
I honestly thing they are purposely making it slower to make your phone feel out dated to upgrade. Because my 3g before was fine. - beelz, on 07/23/2010, -5/+141Ya they kind of screwed over 3G users with this update.
- Krumm, on 07/24/2010, -20/+155This isn't a problem.
All phones do this - look, I just installed Windows ME on a Motorola Razr and look how slow it is...look!
It's not Apple's fault... everyone has this problem.
Look at the silly monkey...
Not buying it huh? Balls...
Have a free bumper case. - redstring, on 07/23/2010, -6/+97Yep, another victim of this "upgrade" here. Hope they fix it soon.
- MercenarySlick, on 07/24/2010, -25/+109Hahahaha.
Sent from my Droid Incredible. - gailkim, on 07/24/2010, -19/+99I'm losing more and more respect for Apple each day.
- iamcowdrunk, on 07/24/2010, -5/+73Just flash an optimized ROM...... Oh.
- shroomtime, on 07/23/2010, -5/+65Sucks Apple doesn't even let you downgrade to 3.1.2 to make phone work a bit faster.
- AmyVernon, on 07/23/2010, -9/+61Glad I have a 3GS.
- thecosmicpope, on 07/24/2010, -5/+523G user with the same issue here. I'm tired of Apple fanbois trying to justify it too. I've been told there is no problems, which is clearly wrong. I've been told I just need to reinstall from backup, which did nothing. I've been told I need to reinstall from scratch, which worked for about a day before the problems began creeping back in. I've now been told it's my fault because I didn't upgrade. Windows and Android support countless phones, and Apple are struggling to support 3 of it's own phones. And it isn't like the 3G is that old either - 2 years really isn't that long. I expected a little slow down given the phone is now a couple of generations old and the software is new, but I didn't expect it to cripple it.
If iOS4 was going to run this badly on the 3G then Apple had 2 real options. They could have improved iOS4 and made it run like it should have. Or they could have not supported the 3G and stopped the issue from happening. Instead they went for options 3 - release it and ignore it.
Get it sorted Apple. You are meant to be famous for high quality products and recently all it's been is problem after problem. - inkswamp, on 07/24/2010, -18/+62Nice to see your Droid Incredible can compete with a 2 1/2 year old phone.
BTW, I also have an Android phone and I'm sort of annoyed that, despite it being less than a year since release, it's not going to be supported for 2.2. At least Apple is getting something out there for older phones, even if it's not perfect. - BugMeNot2, on 07/24/2010, -2/+36Just hope this doesn't happen to you with iOS 5.
- xboxsosmart, on 07/23/2010, -5/+38Shouldn't be a problem. $200 is worth it. Even though it will be $100 in 10 months.
Steve
Sent from my iPhone 4 - kiantech, on 07/24/2010, -24/+54you know what is hilarious, everyone in here saying, oh im on my incredible hahah its fast...im on my evo getting 4g speeds hahha look at me....
When the 3G came out there was 0 android phones. So shut up. Im not defending apple, I have a 3G and it runs slow. But seriously android fanboys your in your own level of doucheness far above apple fanboys.
HAHA your pentium II is soooo slow, I have an i7 and it runs great loll ahahahah....STFU - SpookyET, on 07/24/2010, -4/+31Do NOT upgrade. Do a clean install via restore or DFU modes. A lot of the slowness is fixed. Not sure what's going on with upgrades that cripple iPhones. It doesn't become just slow, but also cripples battery life.
As for those who say, just get an iPhone 4, can you be more ignorant? Some live in countries where they pay full price $700 + taxes. Other Americans need an unlocked iPhone because they travel; so, they'll have to buy it from Canada unlocked at full price as well. Lastly, that $200 phone will cost you $1500 by the end of the contract. You're paying it a couple of times over. - blatsek, on 07/24/2010, -7/+31Well, I think they're laughing because old Android phones get faster when they get new software, not slower.
- ScottRTL, on 07/24/2010, -2/+25Get an iPhone 4 and then have different issues...
- AmazingSteve, on 07/24/2010, -0/+22I upgraded and all of a sudden, I started getting empty emails from the date 69-12-31. Is my infant self trying to warn me of something through time?
- abudhu, on 07/24/2010, -2/+21Oh man, the delay in answering a phone call is the worst, and the issue I suffer from the most since upgrading to 4.0 =(
- Kerafyrm, on 07/24/2010, -2/+19Or just get a different smartphone, it's not that bad.
And you're not forced to deal with Apple or AT&T. - BrynF, on 07/24/2010, -1/+16I remember a time when upgrading to a new version of OS X actually made old hardware feel FASTER. In any case there's no excuse for an official update to cripple the phone like this.
- onClipEvent, on 07/24/2010, -1/+16not just the iphone 3G....the second gen ipod touch suffers from the same performance hit.
- DemDude, on 07/24/2010, -1/+16To be fair though, by "old Android phones" you mean Android phones that are no more than a year old, because we all know that Android phones don't get updates beyond a couple of months after Release. Just look at the htc Dream, which was released four months after the iPhone 3G, and hasn't gotten any updates past late 2009.
Hell, even most phones released today can't get 2.2, which was released two months ago. Some are even released with 1.6 on them! - enantiodromia, on 07/24/2010, -1/+15I tried that. They blamed the apps I downloaded from the Market, even after I removed them all and did a Reset.
The other hurdle is that this is a work phone, and I had to pull a lot of strings to get the Droid in the first place, so if I go back to the CFO now and ask him to call Verizon to fix it, no one else will likely be allowed to get a Droid in the future.
I'm not sure why people are digging me down, this is my experience with the Droid so far. Does it bother some people that much that a stranger has problems with his phone? - Pardis, on 07/24/2010, -3/+17" You people will seriously never be satisfied. Google it and downgrade it. This is Digg...NONE of you should have trouble with this."
until you hit the Apps that require you to have iOS4 - AiR1890, on 07/24/2010, -3/+16Also glad the first iphone I got was a 3GS.
- DanielHunter, on 07/24/2010, -0/+13Hah.
I remember when they first announced that the update wouldn't be available for the first-gen iPhones, and people acted like Apple had just punched them in the face. I wonder if those people are still bitching. - Azsen, on 07/24/2010, -10/+23It seems the 3GS is still the best iPhone out.
- iMiiTH, on 07/24/2010, -0/+12It's what they do with iTunes.Quicktime on Windows computers.
- enantiodromia, on 07/24/2010, -18/+30In all honesty, this video is what my Droid does to me all day long. When I flip from vertical to horizon...................................tal....... ........ ........ I usually get stuck somewhere in between unless I slide the keyboard out to force the orientation.
When I go into my app menu and . ... pickmyappallthesuddeneverything gets queued up and I watch 20 commands execute at once.
When I look at the "System" utility to see whats going on, I usually see the default Mail service, and the general Android service, pegging the CPU at 100%
My desktop icons also just disappear all the time, and the only thing that fixes all of these problems, is a good old fashioned reboot. I have never had to reboot a phone as often as I do the Droid.
I hope Froyo will fix these issues, but the release date keeps getting pushed further and further away for some reason. - DanielHunter, on 07/24/2010, -3/+15You mean when the various manufacturers allow them to update the software?
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 07/23/2010, -4/+14i've found that restoring it after upgrading it helps a great deal.
- bfogarty27, on 07/24/2010, -0/+10who said anything about the incredible? not to mention that it along with the droid x are getting 2.2 so whats your point?
- Speed, on 07/24/2010, -2/+12thisthatwhat, but for most phones, refusing to make a phone call because you're holding it wrong isn't an issue. This goes beyond a simple "nothing's perfect".
- AiR1890, on 07/24/2010, -7/+16can't you do that yourself, its possible right? Just download firmware 3.1.2, and open up itunes with you iphone 3G plugged in, and then press the option key and update button at the same time, then a window will pop up, and open up the downloaded firmware you got, select it, and then it will restore your iphone to 3.1.2. I'm pretty sure you can do that.
- LinuxSmooth, on 07/24/2010, -1/+10......... the broken upgrade is the problem, not the fact that it's an option.
- xboxfiend, on 07/24/2010, -0/+93G users are actually the lucky ones, as it's the only iphone that doesn't require you to save any blobs for a downgrade.You can go back to 3.1.2 quite easily. If you're using a PC, hold down shift before pressing the restore button and manually open the firmware as stated above. It will likely get stuck and give you the 1015 error after loading it, so you will also need to run blackra1n afterward to force a reboot. Once you've done that, you should be back in the land of 3.1.2.
- tidu, on 07/24/2010, -3/+12What the ***** is a Droid Incredible?
- phoomp, on 07/24/2010, -2/+10Why would they fix it? They've already offered a solution: upgrade to the iPhone4
- smacksaw, on 07/24/2010, -0/+8Same thing happened to me, they said it was the apps I downloaded. I started taking meticulous video of it with my iPhone and after about 6 trips I got my first Droid replaced. Fast-forward to now, my 3rd one is dying. Just yesterday the GPS had me in Pennsylvania and Ohio...when I was in Vermont.
The reason they don't want to give replacements is that they don't have them. Your replacement is a refurb model - they don't want to give you a new one. I've had to wait for them to get them in and they made me go 1st thing in the morning before they all got scooped up - THAT many people are waiting for replacements.
My next quest is to have them take back the Droid and get me a different model.
As a side note - this is the 2nd one with a broken GPS. I think that if I found the original SO for my phones, they were sent in for those exact problems which were never fixed. - Myztry, on 07/24/2010, -0/+8Meh. The Commodore Amiga quite comfortably ran a 32 bit pre-emptive multitasking GUI OS in 256-512k and with a 7Mhz processor. It even managed to run applications like Lightwave.
When the resources of modern phones are easily 100 times that of the Amiga, it suggests that the issue isn't simply sparse resources but more importantly bloated design. - DanielHunter, on 07/24/2010, -0/+8Most 3G owners are due for an update anyway, unlike most of the 3GS owners.
- mrBitch, on 07/24/2010, -0/+7RE: ".. If iOS4 was going to run this badly on the 3G then Apple had 2 real options. They could have improved iOS4 and made it run like it should have. Or they could have not supported the 3G and stopped the issue from happening."
That's actually a very good point.
Why did Apple say the original 2007 iPhone model couldn't update to iOS4, but the 3G iPhone could?
This makes no sense when you realise that the 3G iPhone actually runs THE SAME HARDWARE as the 2007 iPhone (all Apple did was add the 3G connection capability to the 2007 iPhone hardware).
FTA :
".. Apple left the original iPhone off of its list of supported phones for iOS 4, claiming the older phone's hardware simply couldn't handle iOS 4. This was an interesting move considering the iPhone 3G has the same CPU and RAM as the first-gen iPhone. If iOS 4's performance on the iPhone 3G is any indicator, Apple was right to leave the original iPhone by the wayside, and perhaps should have left the iPhone 3G out as well." - staticjolteon, on 07/24/2010, -1/+8The iPhone 3G and 2nd Gen iPod Touch hardware (RAM, processor) is pretty *****, especially compared to the 3GS. It's around 200mhz slower, with half the RAM (128MB). It's like trying to run Windows 7 on a bottom end 2003 model HP desktop. Why Apple allowed the 3G and iPod Touch 2nd Gen to run iOS 4 is beyond me.
- Veegie, on 07/24/2010, -0/+7Isn't that the situation (price wise) with all flagship smartphones?
- Speed, on 07/24/2010, -0/+7They should have given a warning saying that it may slow down the phone, and given us an option to downgrade (without having to Google a workaround).
It's kind of funny, the reason Apple gave for not bringing multitasking to the 3G is that the hardware couldn't handle it. Apparently the hardware also can't handle iOS4. - danc256, on 07/24/2010, -2/+8I have a 3G and when I upgrade to iOS 4 the lag was so bad I thought the phone was hung at times. After a few searches someone suggested disabling all the spotlight search options and a hard reset. It was back to near iPhone OS 3.1.x speeds after that.
So as much as I hate the "there's nothing wrong with it" stance, it only took a few minutes of searching to find a reasonable fix. I still wouldn't swap this phone for another one (and for now that includes the iPhone 4). - anocka, on 07/24/2010, -0/+6I'm having the same problems with my 3g. If Steve wants me to upgrade, I will gladly upgrade to an Android phone.
- ZooMigo, on 07/24/2010, -2/+8Hmm, I said something like this when iOS 4 came out and got dugg way down.
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